[CQ-Contest] Rookie Contest

[Bob AD5VJ]

Hi John

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I have read where this is an attempt
to keep unscrupulous contesters from spending a lot of time manipulating
their logs (which is understandable).

The other argument I have heard is that the logs ever so slowly dribble in
leaving the contest log coordinators waiting an unusually unnecessary time
until the last log comes in.

I agree that a month seems like an awfully long time under today's standards
and technology. Originally, I am sure you remember, it was 30 days because
you had to use manual dupe sheets - dupe out the log(s) and recheck the dupe
sheets. You had a second and third contester in your group double and triple
check all of that to insure the logs submitted were accurate before
submission.

Today the software we use does all that within minutes or even seconds (in
my case HIHI). Even if we use paper logs we can always do some data entry
into an application that will do the hard part then print it out for
submission.

73,
Bob AD5VJ


> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Geiger [mailto:aa5jg at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 8:51 AM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com; 'James Duffey'; Bob AD5VJ
> Cc: 'James Duffey'; 'Ward Silver'
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Rookie Contest
> 
> Or how about 30 days which is standard fare for every other contest.
> Why reinvent the wheel-such a time limit has worked fine since the
> start of contesting.
> 
> 73s John AA5JG
> 
> --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Bob AD5VJ <rtnmi at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> > From: Bob AD5VJ <rtnmi at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Rookie Contest
> > To: "'John Geiger'" <aa5jg at yahoo.com>, cq-contest at contesting.com,
> "'James Duffey'" <jamesduffey at comcast.net>
> > Cc: "'James Duffey'" <jamesduffey at comcast.net>, "'Ward Silver'"
> <hwardsil at gmail.com>
> > Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 8:48 AM
> > I understand the reason for a time
> > limit and agree there should be a time
> > limit on submitting logs for any contest. However, 10 mins
> > after the contest
> > is just a little too short in my opinion. Too many
> > possibilities of
> > extenuating circumstances keeping one from meeting the time
> > limit even if
> > his intent was to do so.
> >
> > I know we want to target those who are lackadaisical in
> > their submissions
> > and agree we need to do something about them.
> >
> > I usually submit right after the contest, however, I have
> > had circumstances
> > here that would prohibit doing so.
> >
> > I agree let's think in terms of a time limit because there
> > is nothing worse
> > for a sorter to have to languish for days on end waiting
> > for final logs to
> > come in, but let's think in terms of one that would work
> > even if there was
> > trouble with submitting it.
> >
> > I have sometimes had internet problems for longer than 10
> > mins.
> >
> > Let's consider 24 hours or 48 hours or something along that
> > line, enforce it
> > and stick to it.
> >
> > 73,
> > Bob AD5VJ
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-
> > > bounces at contesting.com]
> > On Behalf Of John Geiger
> > > Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:20 PM
> > > To: cq-contest at contesting.com;
> > James Duffey
> > > Cc: James Duffey; Ward Silver
> > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rookie Contest
> > >
> > > I guess I still don't see the point.  How is
> > having to have your log
> > > submitted within 10 minutes after the contest ends any
> > more appropriate
> > > for rookie contesters than any other contester?
> > How is it really
> > > appropriate at all?  After all, I do have a life
> > outside of ham radio
> > > and sometimes things get crazy enough around here that
> > I can't just
> > > drop everything and submit a log within the magical 10
> > minute window.
> > >
> > > 73s John AA5JG
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 2/12/10, James Duffey <jamesduffey at comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: James Duffey <jamesduffey at comcast.net>
> > > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Rookie Contest
> > > > To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > > > Cc: "James Duffey" <jamesduffey at comcast.net>,
> > "Ward Silver"
> > > <hwardsil at gmail.com>
> > > > Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 3:06 PM
> > > > Ward - Bravo to you and the others
> > > > for moving the contesting world into the 21st
> > century. It is
> > > > long overdue and I hope that it grows from a
> > single contest
> > > > into many. It may not be appropriate for all
> > contests an
> > > > contesters, but it seems right for the new rookie
> > contest. -
> > > > Duffey
> > > > --
> > > > KK6MC
> > > > James Duffey
> > > > Cedar Crest NM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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