[CQ-Contest] USA stations in ARRL DX

[Kelly Taylor]

I think it's inadvisable to assume, as Richard says, malice, even in Dave's 
scenario. I would suggest Dave's little pileups are guys who thought "Oh, he 
worked a W. Must mean that he's working Ws." I think assuming they know 
exactly the score may be giving them too much credit. I think the problem is 
exacerbated with non-traditional calls, such as AB7E, because I know there 
are a number of operators out there unsophisticated enough (is that a polite 
enough term?) to wonder, "Gee, what country is AB7?! Must be a good one!" I 
know I had to explain that more than once when VV and I activated VC4X from 
here in MB.

And, I'm sure a lot of guys are working you who can barely copy your call, 
let alone figure out what 5nn az means!

I'd suggest the solution happens just before the contest: adjust your CQing 
macros as follows:

F1: CQ DX TEST de...
F2: DX de... TEST

and if you have a blank: <call window content> 599 tu

If you worry that adding two characters to your CQ is costing you too much 
time, ask yourself how much does having to send "sri no US DX only" cost?

Above all, just smile and wave: unless you're in a super rare state like ND, 
every W/VE is in the same boat you are. If it's costing you, it's costing 
the other guy, too. Problems are all relative.

73, kelly
ve4xt



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard F DiDonna NN3W" <nn3w at cox.net>
To: "CQ-Contest at contesting. com" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] USA stations in ARRL DX


>I am not sure that they know better.  Many times I will listen to the ham
> calling me, and he is either a mobile or a 2x3 call.  You can't presume 
> that
> there is malice intended and I think its not a good example to a future
> contester to tell them off.  It certainly doesn't do us any good in the PR
> department.
>
> 73 Rich NN3W
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave - AB7E" <xdavid at cis-broadband.com>
> To: <ve4xt at mts.net>; <f5vhj at orange.fr>; "CQ-Contest at contesting. com"
> <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] USA stations in ARRL DX
>
>
>>
>> I try to be as polite as I can (typically by sending "DX ONLY 73"), but I
>> no longer work stateside stations during ARRL DX contests.  Every time I
>> work one it just encourages others on frequency to call.  In the past 
>> I've
>> literally generated mini-pileups of stateside stations by working just 
>> one
>> or two, which tells me that the majority of those folks know exactly what
>> the contest is about.  Personally, I think it is rude of them to call 
>> when
>> they know better ... they've simply decided that their desire for a
>> contact or a card trumps my desire to compete in the contest.  Last year
>> was particularly bad because of the Triple Play award, but it's always
>> particularly bad in the SSB contest.
>>
>> 73,
>> Dave   AB7E
>>
>>
>> ------Original Mail------
>> From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt at mts.net>
>> To: "Albert Crespo" <f5vhj at orange.fr>,
>>    "<cq-contest at contesting.com>" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:23:33 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] USA stations in ARRL DX
>>
>> I should add, that it occurred to me there's a scenario where Albert's
>> idea does make sense (just so you know I'm not totally picking on you,
>> Albert).
>>
>> If you're blessed with any kind of a pileup, choosing to answer
>> stations that count for points is your prerogative. The same-country
>> guy should get the message and shouldn't feel slighted.
>>
>> It's when you CQ in the face of your lone 50over9 respondent that
>> you're not being polite.
>>
>> 73
>> Kelly
>> Ve4xt
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:44 AM, "Albert Crespo" <f5vhj at orange.fr> wrote:
>>
>>> Working USA lids just encourages them to continue polluting other
>>> stations logs  who they then call. Nothing discourages bad operating
>>> then nobody every coming back to your call. Just ignore- easy,
>>> polite, and within the rules of the contest.
>>
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