[CQ-Contest] Log checking with mismatched bands

[Robert Chudek - K0RC]

"If someone gives you a report other than "59" in a contest...say in
CQWW he gives you a "41" but you log it as "59" anyway (we're all 59
in contests, right?) "


Why would you not log it as "41"? Whether the contest sponsor decides to 
apply a penalty or not is irrelevant. A skilled operator will log what is 
sent, not what a program provides as a default.

Contest databases have my QTH as MN and this is correct most of the time. In 
2007 I operated Sweepstakes CW from Grand Forks, ND. The LCR (log checking 
report) following that event revealed the less skilled operators who 
disregarded what I sent and logged MN, what their program gave them. The 
following year the same kind of errors were reported in the LCR where some 
operators logged ND when I was in fact back in Minnesota.

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ryan Jairam" <rjairam at gmail.com>
To: "Julius Fazekas" <phriendly1 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "Robert Chudek - K0RC" <k0rc at citlink.net>; "Tree" <tree at kkn.net>; "David 
Levine" <david at levinecentral.com>; <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Log checking with mismatched bands


> True, but look at it another way.
>
> If someone gives you a report other than "59" in a contest...say in
> CQWW he gives you a "41" but you log it as "59" anyway (we're all 59
> in contests, right?) Because we all know that there are people who
> think that a contest should have "honest" signal reports.
>
> Both you and that person submit a log. Your log shows "59" and his
> shows that he sent you a "41" Should you be penalized for miscopying
> the signal report, even though the signal report is largely
> unimportant in the contest?
>
> Mind you, many (most) contest software pre-populates the signal report
> field with "59" anyway. It's automatic.  Yes you should be paying
> attention, but is the signal report important?  Similarly, is the band
> important in sweepstakes since you can only work any station only
> once, regardless of band?
>
> The timestamps I agree you should lose points if they are way off but
> even LoTW allows you +/- 30 minutes, so someone must not think they're
> that big of a deal.
>
> Oh by the way I do my best to ensure the frequencies and bands are
> correct, and I use CAT so I get exact frequencies in the log. But I do
> that because I feel it increases the integrity of log checking and
> it's "the right thing to do" not because of any compulsion that I will
> lose points if I don't.  My computer clock is also synchronized via
> NTP (3 sources) and all that is checked out pre-contest.  It's
> overkill but I pay attention to detail.
>
> Ryan N2RJ
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Julius Fazekas <phriendly1 at yahoo.com> 
> wrote:
>>> Timestamps and frequencies don't test skill, only the
>>> equipment and software.
>>
>> Ummm, if the timestamps and frequencies are wrong doesn't that mean that 
>> your software and/or equipment is not either setup and/or working 
>> properly?
>>
>> Sounds like that would present a bigger problem than poor logging...
>>
>> Julius Fazekas
>> N2WN
>>
>> Tennessee Contest Group
>> http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html
>> http://groups.google.com/group/tcg1?hl=en
>>
>> Tennessee QSO Party
>> http://www.tnqp.org/
>>
>> Elecraft K2/100 #4455
>> Elecraft K3/100 #366
>> Elecraft K3/100 #1875
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> -- 
> Ryan A. Jairam,