[CQ-Contest] HA: Club/Group competition

Vladimir Sidorov vs_otw at rogers.com
Fri Apr 8 05:34:38 PDT 2011

OK, let's suppose, no 250 km limit anymore. Let's say, a country wide clubs are eligible for competition. Now what, you don't really know who will be the winners ALWAYS? Who can compete to the USA-wide club? Or Germany-wide? 

Extending borders likely in favour of less populated areas will also extend borders of very populated areas, and in the end of the day  it's difficult to see any advantage in that for anybody.

Vladimir VE3IAE



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Отправлено: April-07-11 11:41 PM
Кому: j_hector_garcia at sbcglobal.net; cx6vm.jorge at adinet.com.uy; cq-contest at contesting.com
Тема: Re: [CQ-Contest] Club/Group competition

When living in crowded areas in the middle of Europe or the U.S. it might be hard for some of you to understand the arguments for suggested revised rules for the club competitions. If those competitions stimulate more activity in the contests, why the resistance to extend the geographical area? If the club also actively encourages education of operating technique and morale standards (following power, cluster/skimmer and other rules) I only see increased allowed geographical area as a true advantage. 73 de R3/SM6LRR, Mats

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Re: [CQ-Contest] Club/Group competition 275 km radius in CQ Contest (petition for change).

Like Jorge  mention,  The XE's are in the same position, just a few contesters that most of them are in several states 
of Mexico with much more separation of   the 275km Radius.

The club rule  with the 275km is for   Entities like USA, JA, DL, F, etc  where 
there are thousands of Active hams
but  in this case Mexico just have a little over 3000 hams,   less than 1% 
active in contest and most of them
belongs to Grupo  DXXE  and  the members are  all over Mexico.

What damage we can do to the big clubs  if the number of logs summited are less that 30  and most of them with small numbers but giving points.

with this rule NO CLUB competition from Mexico.

Rules are Rules but not fair for us.
 J.Hector Garcia  XE2K / AD6D
Mexicali B.C  DM22fp
P.O.Box 73
El Centro CA 92244-0073

From: Jorge Diez - CX6VM <cx6vm.jorge at adinet.com.uy>
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 5:23:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Club/Group competition 275 km radius in CQ Contest 
(petition for change).

and what about if you don´t have more hams in your city?

Today you don´t need to drive to get information from the club meeting about
topics of our hobby? It´s good to have technology to receive information
immediately. You can arrange a meeting in a webinar style or something else
to avoid the distances.

In a few weeks I will be driving 850 kmts to meet LU Contest Group, that
provide me a lot of helpful information about contests and a lot of friends.
In July I will be driving 500 kmts to meet GADX in Brazil.

In my country we are very few serious contesters and we find great support
in contest groups outside our country.


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De: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] En nombre de Joe
Enviado el: Jueves, 07 de Abril de 2011 10:37 a.m.
Para: cq-contest at contesting.com
Asunto: Re: [CQ-Contest] Club/Group competition 275 km radius in CQ Contest
(petition for change).

I'm probably going to be in the minority on this as  I have been on most 
other topics like this.

But I think in exactly the opposite direction. I feel the circle is ten 
times TOO BIG right now!  I do not feel that two people over 500 miles 
apart are in the same club.

A club is a group of people that often meet Like at a monthly meeting.  
An organization yes can have members 1000's of miles apart.  But a club 
is a "Local" thing.  A Club is something you would be willing to drive 
to a meeting once a month to actually meet the other members of the club.

I don't know many clubs that have members driving 200+ miles to go to a 
monthly meeting.

I'd like the circle to be actually reduced to like a 25 mile radius.  
Thats a "Club" sized circle.

If ya want more members in your club get more in the club. simple.

But I'll put my flame suit on now.


The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme

On 4/6/2011 4:16 PM, Martin Monsalvo, LU5DX wrote:
> Hi guys.
> We started a petition to ask the organizers of CQ Contest to review the
> Km radius rule (Club/Group) competition.
> We have been allowed by the organizers to submit our contest scores to our
> clubs/groups for eleven years now, but we really feel it is time for a
> change.
> This rule was originally written back in 1948 when these competitions
> started and certainly the wording took into account the situation of the
> based Clubs.
> There are countries outside USA and Europe where the territory is really
> vast and the ham population is very little. Our members feel encouraged to
> enter contests even if it is ocassionally if they are allowed to submit
> their scores to our Club/Groups, and we really believe that being these
> competitions world wide events, the situation of other regions needs to be
> considered.
> There are several options e.g.:
> Remove the geographic limitation completely, thus, allowing members of
> Club to submit their scores to their club, no matter if they have moved
> temporarily or permanently.
> Keep this geographic limitation as it is for the US and Western Europe
> countries and remove it for the rest of the world, and so on.
> If you feel like signing the petition you can do so at:
> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/275km/
> Thanks in advance for getting involved.
> Regards!
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