[CQ-Contest] RES: Fw: [RRDXA] E73M - I have cheated

[py5eg]

Hi Folks

Only to make it clear that by far more than 0,1% is cheating:
The rules say maximum power 1500 Watts, what about 1510 watts?
Isn´t also against the rules?
Oms PY5EG 

-----Mensagem original-----
De: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] Em nome de Zrinko Zibert
Enviada em: sábado, 20 de agosto de 2011 07:47
Para: CQ-Contest at contesting.com
Assunto: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fw: [RRDXA] E73M - I have cheated

Hi all,

it is more than 0.1 %.
Everybody knows that.
Almost everybody ignore it.

73, Zik DK8ZZ, VE3ZIK, YT3ZZ



2011/8/20 Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd at charter.net>

> Don has made some very good points.
>
> The Contest sponsors do not have magical powers to detect power cheating.
> You cannot assume the sponsor will be able to determine if a station 
> is cheating in this way.  The best way to help is to report your 
> suspicions, or better, to provide evidence.  These "suspicions" are 
> very helpful to the sponsor in knowing where to look for more 
> information.
>
> Power cheating is the steroids of ham radio contesting.  Anyone who 
> looks away or ignores the problem is not helping the sport and 
> stealing something from all of us.
>
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest- 
> > bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Don Field
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:46 PM
> > To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fw: [RRDXA] E73M - I have cheated
> >
> > As manager for the IOTA contest, I feel I should comment. We dealt 
> > with one station who repeatedly entered QRP and had scores typically 
> > 50%
> higher
> > than other QRP entrants. He no longer participates. We were able to 
> > do this because we had corroborating evidence from the country 
> > concerned
> that
> > he was indeed running substantially more than QRP. But it took a 
> > couple
> of
> > years to get to the point where we were sure.
> >
> > So I am not clear how Kostas expected us to identify Low Power 
> > entrants who were using high power (other than one that posted a 
> > photo on their website with linear in full view :-)  ). Contest 
> > organisers need to be
> fed
> > the necessary information, and need to have evidence - there are too 
> > many people nowadays ready to threaten legal action if their 
> > integrity is impugned. That said, it is getting easier with the RBN 
> > network to make comparisons between stations geographically close, 
> > but even then there
> are
> > big variations in site, antenna orientation, etc.
> >
> > That said, it's a pity if anyone stops participating because they 
> > feel
> the
> > organisers are not coming down hard on such cheats. It comes down to 
> > why you participate in the first place. Is it purely to win? Is it 
> > to have
> fun
> > and run some pile-ups. Is it (in the case of the IOTA contest) to 
> > work some new islands? There are several possible motivations. Some 
> > want to
> win
> > at all costs. Some never expect to win, but they actually make these 
> > contests work
> > - without the "participants" (the "also rans", call them what you 
> > will) the serious entrants would have a very thin time indeed!
> >
> > Don G3XTT
> > IOTA COntest Manager
> >
> > On 18 August 2011 17:42, Kostas Stamatis <sv1dpi at otenet.gr> wrote:
> >
> > > I have lost from others SV cheating this way.... I knew that they 
> > > had amplifiers and sent their log as Low power. What could i do? I 
> > > was expecting RSGB (it was a previous iota  contest) to catch them.
> > > Unfortunately nothing.
> > > So i stopped participating on iota contest. Which is the next one? 
> > > I don't know if i must stop contesting at all or i should buy a 
> > > bigger
> > amplifier...
> > > CQ and ARRL can not understand that if they continue to follow 
> > > this policy their contests will loose popularity? They can not see 
> > > that Russian, Slovenian and others contests gain popularity 
> > > because the sponsors trying hard (and do it) to catch cheaters? 
> > > This is the most important thing and they keep trying to have good 
> > > public relations and not correct things. Even penalties for 
> > > cheaters are not big. Just my
> > opinion.
> > >
> > > 73 kostas SV1DPI
> > >
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