How about for the CQWW: Me: Test de W7WHY You: XX9XXX Me: XX9XXX tu QRZ They don't check zone or RST anyway. 73 Tom W7WHY Why not "extend" dit dit dit dit to five dits instead of four, then reapply cut number (tm). Super efficient - just a single dit!! Should be super fast, confusion be damned... Tom - VE3CX