[CQ-Contest] XEs in contest

Hector Garcia XE2K j_hector_garcia at sbcglobal.net
Fri Jan 14 19:10:42 PST 2011

Hi  Contesters

In support  to  Ramon's  information, will like to share the Mexican Ham radio 
Law translated  to English by   George Warren XE1/N9VIU
you ca find here  http://www.qsl.net/oh2mcn/xelawen.pdf

Will like to explain that CoFeTel (SCT)  use a guide where explain to them how 
the permits and others Special  event call need to be issued, but that is
internal  use  and is how they work.

Will like to  headlight   the following articles :
Art. 3     The rights and obligations germane to the licence are personal and 
not transferable.
   --- means only the person in the certificate can use it, NO  Mexican can 
 borrow "loan" "Rent" his call to other person  or use it like CLUB CALL.-----

Art. 21  Related to reciprocal permits, the one the visitor do not like  or like 

Now here is the information,  there is no more  doubts, very clear, more 
specific ask us and with pleasure will 
provide the info or where you can ask to get a real answer.

As Mexican our law is very old, not friendly and very  hard to deal,  a lot of 
Mexican hams want to make a improvement in our law
not only make changes, we need a better law that allow the ham population in 
Mexico to grow, not to die only,  we are now  much less that 4000 hams
in all Mexico with license, active hams much less.

One of the things we want to change for good is the reciprocal permit, but  we 
have no support from the visitors and the contest sponsors,  they don't care
they operate where they want  the contest they like in the  way  his idea of 
 correct call  they think is correct  or the call they like   with no permit and 
the contest  sponsor accept the log and later they are the NEW record from 
Mexico, the sponsor do not care  for permits.
  ARRL  and CQ Magazine  What is the fear to ask for permits ?    

With this support to the Mexicans will be difficult  to them  deal with CoFeTel 
 and make it easy  to others operate from Mexico LEGALLY.

A lot of  contesters think that is not big deal  be Legal in  Banana Republic, 
their log  will be fine and maybe WIN a CONTEST!!!  and they
continue using his  "compadre station and his call to support his club score and 
give the mult", nobody will notice.

Sorry but  Mexico is not Banana Republic and in my case, the one who  operate 
 with NO permit or PIRATE  is the same thing that Cheat,   I don't like 

The contest sponsor do not like cheaters but support Illegal operations as good 
for contest, and also  will keep the  RECORDS for ever in his web page.(6D2X, 
XE2/W5??? etc etc)

After become enemy of a few and  hated for others, just my point of view, 
because I follow rules even if I don't like at all, just want the others also 
follow the rules  because is the way to play.

J.Hector Garcia  XE2K / AD6D
Mexicali B.C  DM22fp
P.O.Box 73 
El Centro CA 92244-0073

From: Ramon Santoyo V. <xe1kk at xe1kk.net>
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 8:32:21 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] XEs in contest

Yes, the process to obtain a Mexican reciprocal license is complicated and 
expensive.  Christian DL6KAC has a page shows how to do it:

But this is the way it is even to obtain an amateur radio license for locals. 
IARU R2 has a document on its webpage in which you can compare the types and 
cost of licenses and the number of amateurs in the region (including the US) and 
you can see how expensive we are and how it affect the number of XEs compared to 
others: http://bit.ly/dMgclE

Permits do say that you can't contest or operate islands with it.  The origin of 
this goes back to the times of XF4L, 6D2X, XA5T and personal visions that 
foreigns operations shouldn't be allowed for Revillagigedo, contest or islands.  
Many locals, and Cofetel our FCC equivalent, think this is the way it should be 
kept but I personally don't.

However contesting and islands operations can be done if 50% XEs - 50% foreigns 
participates (XE2S's, 6D2VHF, 4A2X, 6G1KK, XF4DL, and others).  For some IOTAs 
even 100% foreign operations has been authorized.

So it is possible and I hope we can see more mixed operations so Cofetel can see 
we don't "lose our sovereignty" with them.  But every time a foreign comes and 
operates without a license gives Cofetel a reason to keep their old ideas.


Ramon, XE1KK

On Jan 13, 2011, at 11:29 PM, cq-contest-request at contesting.com wrote:

> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:07:41 -0500 (EST)
> From: aldewey at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] XEs in contest
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Message-ID: <8CD816C496275EC-A80-10E4F at webmail-d022.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> A few years ago, I had the opportunity to be in Mexico at the same time IARU 
>was going on.  I found it was fairly difficult for a U.S. amateur to get a 
>temporary license to operate in Mexico.  There was a lot of read tape and a 
>number of fees, money transfers, etc.  I ended up getting the license too late 
>to operate when I was there.  One thing that the temporary license did specify 
>quite clearly, however, was that NO CONTEST OPERATION was allowed.
> Is this still the case with temporary licenses for operation in Mexico or has 
>that changed?  Do you know the reason for this?
> 73,
> Al, K0AD
> Serious contest operations from the past decades were mostly americans 
> ere, legally or some say illegally.  You can see some of the actual records and 
> D2X is still on top.

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