[CQ-Contest] Throwing the Baby Out With the Bathwater

Wayne Mills n7ng at bresnan.net
Thu Mar 17 12:34:06 PDT 2011


Maybe they're thinking HAAT (Height above average terrain)? That might make
some sort of sense. If not, I should have more of an advantage at 2000
meters ASL :-) 

Wayne, N7NG
Jackson Hole, WY

-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:30 AM
To: Mike Fatchett W0MU; cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Throwing the Baby Out With the Bathwater

The rule about early filing makes sense if you can get the majority of logs
in on time. But I wonder if the rule about equipment, antennas and ASL is
based on some idea that it is possible to deduce a link between received
signal strength, equipment used and possible cheating on power levels.

Is that the thinking? If it is, I'm dubious about the rationale. If it
isn't, and someone could explain, I would appreciate it.

73, kelly
ve4xt


On 3/16/11 9:43 PM, "Mike Fatchett W0MU" <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:

> Harder was a bad choice of words.  It won't be hard for me at all as I
> probably won't make a single contact.  Sponsors chase participants away
> with overly restrictive rules that are really created for just a few.
> If you make things difficult people will chose other activities.  I know
> people that will not operate the WAE contests because of the QTC's.
> 
> While participation in general is good, the goal should be to get as
> many people to submit logs as possible so there can be a more thorough
> inspection and judging of the logs.
> 
> What does my height above sea level have to do with contesting?
> 
> On 3/16/2011 8:07 PM, Art R8TX wrote:
>>   I   can   not  undrstand  how  on  earth  the  new  rules  "make  the
>>   participation harder" for W7DNA or K0HB or you?
>> 
>>   R8TX
>> 
>>   Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
>> 
>>   MFW>  By making it harder for people to participate....participation
will
>> be
>> MFW>  low...........which is never a good thing.
>> 
>> MFW>  On 3/16/2011 10:21 AM, Paul O'Kane wrote:
>>>> On 16/03/2011 12:45, Pete Smith wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm afraid that the Russian DX Contest organizers are doing something
>>>>> else, Hans. Instead of focusing too heavily on "top contesters", they
>>>>> seem obsessed with trying to prevent all cheating in their contest,
>>>> It seems to me that trying to prevent cheating in
>>>> contests is a reasonable thing for contest organisers
>>>> to do.
>>>> 
>>>>> They seemingly think that by rule-making they
>>>>> can achieve cheater-proofing, a dubious concept all in itself.
>>>> It looks like they are simply making it harder for
>>>> cheaters to get away with cheating.  What is dubious
>>>> about that concept?   IMHO inadequate or unenforced
>>>> rules are a charter for cheaters.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> Paul EI5DI
>>>> 
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