[CQ-Contest] Cheerleading

Barry N1EU n1eu.barry at gmail.com
Tue Nov 8 11:22:32 PST 2011


I'm not buying the statistical analysis.  Let's say the bandmap has a
10-minute timeout setting.  Any number of correct spots of a given
station is one unique data point on the band map.  Every single unique
wrong spot is also a data point on the band map.  So even if there are
50 correct spots of a station in that time period, a single bad spot
means at least a 50% error rate on that bandmap.

Barry N1EU

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Timothy Coker <n6win73 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe Pete can chime in on this as to why your estimate is so high. My
> experience has been a MUCH smaller rate of busted calls from the skimmers.
>
> Let's see, on 11/6/11 my callsign was spotted the following times in error
> by skimmers worldwide:
>
> I6WIN (1)
> N6WEN (3)
> N6WI (1)
> N5WIN (3)
> N5WEB (1)
>
> All of these errors, save one, were from skimmers in other continents.
>
> Conversely, my callsign was spotted 1,000 times correctly as N6WIN by
> skimmers world wide. You may check my data for verification here:
>
> http://reversebeacon.net/raw_data/dl.php?f=20111106
>
> I do believe that I will keep the skimmers turned on in my shack when it is
> appropriate for my entry classification. Nothing is perfect... but a .8%
> error rate is pretty close in my books.
>
> 73,
>
> Tim / N6WIN.
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Barry <w2up at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> The skimmers suck.  In SS, I'd estimate 50% busted calls and this is
>> perfect, computer sent CW.
>> Barry W2UP
>>
>> On 11/7/2011 9:53 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>> > Which contest?  Examples?
>> >
>> > In CW who cares.  There are enough skimmers to find nearly anyone
>> > operating on any band.
>> >
>> > Mike W0MU
>> >
>> > J6M CQ WW DX CW Contest 2011
>> > J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011
>> > W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11/6/2011 7:00 AM, Telegraphy.com wrote:
>> >> I've been watching DX Summit and see many instances where US stations
>> are spotting other US stations
>> >> on a selective basis during Sweepstakes.  This is obviously nothing
>> more than cheerleading and in my
>> >> opinion totally unnecessary and frankly unfair.   What's wrong with
>> those who are doing the spotting are
>> >> they oblivious or just plain stupid?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Tony
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>                           Tony Rogozinski
>> >> Amateur Radio W4OI - W4AMR - HK1AR - HK1AR/4
>> >>               LICENSED FOR OVER 54 YEARS
>> >>            EX-N7BG, K5LMJ, K4KES, WA6BOU,
>> >>          W6JPC W7HZF, F7BK, VP5AR, VQ9AR,
>> >>             OJ0/N7BG, CN2BG, 5V7BG, TY5AR
>> >>             9G5AR, TU/N7BG, ZC4BG, HK3KAV
>> >>                   HK0/HK1AR and many others
>> >>                      I've been to 103 Countries
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