[CQ-Contest] RBN Spots was:Cheerleading

[Pete Smith]

RBN did not intentionally spot stations that were S&P.  However, if you 
call someone right on his frequency, at the same speed, and you send 
your call multiple times (hard not to do in SS), there is a high 
probability that Skimmer will spot both you and the station on the 
frequency both as CQing.  Not much to be done about this, so far.

73, Pete N4ZR

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On 11/8/2011 1:47 PM, Jack Brindle wrote:
> After the contest ended, I was curious to see if I was in the RBN data
> base. To my amazement, I was! This in spite of the fact that I was
> purely S&P and never sent CQ during the effort. I don't see this as a
> weakness in the RBN system, but rather a strength. It is pretty cool
> that the various RBN stations recognized me just from my normal S&P
> operations. Seeing the variety of signal strengths at the various
> stations gives me a better feel for my station's characteristics.
>
> On the other hand, it also makes me wonder how useful those spots are
> during the contest. If RBN spotted all the S&P ops in addition to
> those running, then of what use is the information from an operations
> perspective?
>
> Jack B, W6FB
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:23 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>
>> I don't think they were bogus spots.  The Skimmers will find you if
>> you
>> make one cq and qsy.  People might have left because they were
>> unable to
>> run, too much qrm etc.
>>
>> Why would the assisted and Multi classes ignore the tool the can lead
>> them directly to new contacts and mults?
>>
>> Mike W0MU
>>
>> J6M CQ WW DX CW Contest 2011
>> J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011
>> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>>
>>
>> On 11/7/2011 11:51 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>>> It seemed like the majority of the skimmer/RBN provided callsigns on
>>> my bandmap were bogus (i.e., the spotted callsign was not running on
>>> that frequency), despite the efforts to clean up those spots.
>>>
>>> So I suspect that many/most folks will keep skimmer spots turned off
>>> because of this, and there IS a reason to care who gets spotted the
>>> old fashioned way.
>>>
>>> Barry N1EU
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:53 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett<w0mu at w0mu.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Which contest?  Examples?
>>>>
>>>> In CW who cares.  There are enough skimmers to find nearly anyone
>>>> operating on any band.
>>>>
>>>> Mike W0MU
>>>>
>>>> J6M CQ WW DX CW Contest 2011
>>>> J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011
>>>> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/6/2011 7:00 AM, Telegraphy.com wrote:
>>>>> I've been watching DX Summit and see many instances where US
>>>>> stations are spotting other US stations
>>>>> on a selective basis during Sweepstakes.  This is obviously
>>>>> nothing more than cheerleading and in my
>>>>> opinion totally unnecessary and frankly unfair.   What's wrong
>>>>> with those who are doing the spotting are
>>>>> they oblivious or just plain stupid?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony
>>>>>
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