[CQ-Contest] Opinion: SO-unassisted should not be using CW Skimmer

[w5ov at w5ov.com]

Disclaimer: This is my personal opinion; it is not necessarily
representative of the official position of any contest committee I may be
a member of.

Dave,

It is my opinion that there is no circumstance where having a second
operator involved would not be considered multi-operator.

Regardless of what he's doing, he MUST be considered a second operator.
Therefore, having more than one operator would shift such an operation to
a multi-operator category.

73,

Bob W5OV



> Hi, Mark.
>
> Yes, I am aware of all that, but I still don't think the original
> comment was actually trying to address a rule issue, particularly
> becauseeliminating unassisted categories covers a lot more ground than
> just CW Skimmer ... it also would include allowing packet or internet
> spotting clusters and possibly even having a second op in the shack
> feeding you spots from a second receiver..
>
> Regarding the various opinions on what constitutes "sport" in
> contesting, that also could extend to other areas besides callsign
> spotting as dozens of previous reflector threads have flogged.  Super
> Check Partial, Call History files, logging programs that insert the
> exchange for you, and memory keyers could all (depending upon one's
> personal perspective) be viewed as taking at least some of the
> individual "sport" out of contesting.  That's why I keep trying to make
> the point that the "sport" in radiosport for any particular contest is
> precisely and exclusively whatever the contest sponsor says it is ...
> period.  It is not based upon what we used to be fond of.
>
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
> On 11/29/2011 7:31 AM, Mark Bailey wrote:
>> Hi Dave:
>>
>> Yes.  Some contests, including WAE, don't have "unassisted" categories.
>> There are people
>> advocating the elimination of "unassisted" categories in the other
>> contests.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Mark, KD4D
>>
>> On 11/29/2011 12:13 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
>>> I'm confused regarding the point here.  In what major contest is the
>>> use
>>> of CW Skimmer allowed for unassisted categories (other than in Blind
>>> Mode)?  Isn't all of that already covered in the rules?  Kind of like
>>> it
>>> not being legal to have three people rotating through the chair while
>>> claiming single op.  Or not being able to run a KW while claiming QRP.
>>> Did I miss something?
>>>
>>> Dave   AB7E
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/28/2011 6:12 PM, Radio K0HB wrote:
>>>> In my opinion, Jim has it exactly right.
>>>>
>>>> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jim Reisert AD1C
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 12:34 PM
>>>>
>>>> I don't care if you built the skimmer setup yourself without any
>>>> outside help, and you're only getting spots from your own skimmer.  I
>>>> don't even care if you wrote the software yourself!  Taking a break
>>>> from running to find stations to work is an important skill which
>>>> separates the great S/O unassisted stations from the good ones.  In my
>>>> opinion, having hardware/software to do this for you takes the "sport"
>>>> out of Radiosport.
>>>>
>>>> 73 - Jim AD1C
>>>>
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