[CQ-Contest] Contest-Free Zones was: Re: Record Number of SAC CW Logs -- Now Grab YourMicrophones!

[Pete Smith]

Let me be clear - *if* non-contest zones are specified in the rules, 
they should be followed.  My point is that they shouldn't be.

73, Pete N4ZR

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On 10/4/2011 8:56 PM, Radio K0HB wrote:
> Ron is right again.  (Gawd, I hate it when I say that!)
>
> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Notarius W3WN
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 12:10 AM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest-Free Zones was: Re: Record Number of SAC
> CW Logs -- Now Grab YourMicrophones!
>
> Mats,
>
> There's two factors involved here.
>
> One is a bunch of anti-contest whiners, who spend time immemorial
> complaining on the various internet forums about "those darn contesters."
> Notice that those who complain the loudest are rarely on the air on any
> band, at any time.
>
> The other... sorry Pete, but even if you disagree with the rules of a
> contest setting up "contest free" zones, they ought to be followed.  Not
> only is it good amateur practice and sets a good example, but by breaking
> the contest rules in that way, you only give ammunition to the anti-contest
> whiners.
>
> While we contesters activate the bands (and how), we also have to share them
> with the non-contesters.  No matter what the reason is, to push the
> non-contesters completely off of a given band, especially when operating a
> non-traditional mode in certain band segments -- such as SSB on 7005 kHz,
> for example -- is to antagonize and alienate other operators on the bands.
>
> Just because we have a "right" to use a frequency doesn't mean that we
> should.
>
> Sometimes we're our own worst enemies.
>
> 73, ron w3wn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mats Strandberg
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 2:24 PM
> To: n4zr at contesting.com
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest-Free Zones was: Re: Record Number of SAC
> CW Logs -- Now Grab YourMicrophones!
>
> Pete,
>
> I perfectly agree with you...  WARC bands are underestimated when it comes
> to find contest-free bands or segments. Even during very heavy contests like
> CQWW, WPX, RDXC and others, I see that WARC bands are not used to their full
> extent. People are whining about contesters on the forums instead of
> activating modes and bands with contests.
>
> 73 de RA/SM6LRR, Mats
>
> 2011/10/3 Pete Smith<n4zr at contesting.com>
>
>> Sorry Mats, I did not mean to cast aspersions on the SAC - I think the
> same
>> thing could be said with respect to contest-free zones in all contests, or
>> at least all single-mode contests.  After all, the WARC bands and the
> other
>> modes are always available to non-contesters, as is lots of spectrum
> within
>> the contest bands and mode, except perhaps on SSB during CQWW.
>>
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>>
>> The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at
>> www.conteststations.com
>> The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at
>> reversebeacon.blogspot.com,
>> spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/3/2011 1:34 PM, Mats Strandberg wrote:
>>
>>> About contest-free segments, I see no problems at all with that. On the
>>> contrary, it shows that the organizers are keen to leave space for
>>> non-contesters to operate. Too many contest sponsors have a sloppy
> approach
>>> to contest-free segments. This causes a big irritation among
> non-contesters.
>>> I am definitely in favour of penalties for stations who do not follow the
>>> suggested segments of a contest.
>>>
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