[CQ-Contest] How blatant can you get?

[w1md at cfl.rr.com]

Conversely, 

Folks also know (at least here in the US) that police will OFTEN cut you slack for a certain % over the limit...

What is the GOAL? What do you want the outcome to be?

1.  Stop HIGH power cheating (folks running 1501watts, 1600watts, 3000watts+)
2.  Stop the use of POWER when running in a low (or lower) power category?

Seems to be two different problems...with two different solutions.

Haven't seen ANYone pose a viable SOLUTION to either as yet. 

It IS pretty clear that putting it ALL on the contest organizer is not going to work.

W1MD

---- Pete Smith <n4zr at contesting.com> wrote: 
> It seems to me that the police radar analogy might be useful.  You know 
> you're not being radar clocked all the time, but you never know when a 
> cop might be around the next bend.  Similarly, if a few cheaters get 
> publicly nailed (and banned for a lifetime) a lot of folks may decide 
> they don't want to risk being the next one caught.
> 
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> 
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> 
> On 10/13/2011 11:54 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> > Most of us know that power is a big problem in contesting.  Pointing out
> > the problems is the easy part.  Providing a reasonable solution is not.
> > How can contest organizers determine the power that an entrant is using
> > without actually being at the station with an accurate meter in their shack?
> >
> > Mike W0MU
> >
> > J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011 CQ WW DX CW
> > W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
> >
> >
> > On 10/13/2011 6:41 AM, Mats Strandberg wrote:
> >> This is what I intended to express...
> >>
> >> The power cheating is the big CHALLENGE of the present and future
> >> contesting. WHO will be the first organizer deciding not to be an ostridge
> >> concerning Power cheating?
> >>
> >> 73 de SM6LRR, Mats
> >>
> >>
> >> 2011/10/13<e73m at e73m.com>
> >>
> >>> Good question,
> >>>
> >>> How blatant can you get?
> >>>
> >>> Well, I will try again to bump the debate.
> >>>
> >>>    It is not fault of sellers but users who buy them and then drive them
> >>> "responsibly".
> >>> PVRC webinar from last Sunday, see at
> >>> http://pvrc.org/webinar/cqww_2011.wmv , addressed issue of power and all
> >>> I can get from those in charge of CQWW CC is :"be responsible and fair".
> >>> Another interesting thing was coined from K1DG and mentioned at webinar
> >>> is SSSS (See Something, Say Something), related to 9/11 events and
> >>> translated into contesting.
> >>>
> >>> Does CC wants us to be alert for big amps and report it to them? If we
> >>> need to police contesters with links to sites showing blatantly their
> >>> big amps (even stacked one above another with air vents moved on the
> >>> side) , then why we need CC?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This coming CQ WW phone I will do only 100w and I invite CC to appoint
> >>> observer to come and check my power during the contest. Hope some will
> >>> follow my footsteps and say the same but I really doubt.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     73 Danny E73M,
> >>> http://www.e73m.com
> >>>
> >>> How blatant can you get?
> >>> On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:53:08 -0700, David Gilbert wrote:
> >>>> Check out this advertisement for a Henry 8K-Ultra from W7RF's
> >>>> Radiodan
> >>>> website ( http://www.radiodan.com/Henry/hf_price98.htm )
> >>>>
> >>>> <quote>
> >>>> Beautiful condition and ready for the contest season! You know those
> >>>> BIG
> >>>> signals coming from Europe on 160 and 80? Want to know what they use?
> >>>> Yep, a Henry 8K.
> >>>> And that's what you need for yourself to get through the noise.
> >>>> Rated 5KW output (conservative)
> >>>> Remote control with 20 foot cable
> >>>> 240 VAC single phase
> >>>> 30 day warranty
> >>>> 8 presets
> >>>> in service up until recently and ready for contest season!
> >>>> Checked and tested by Henry factory less than 1 year ago
> >>>> </quote>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 73,
> >>>> Dave   AB7E
> >>>>
> >>>>
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