[CQ-Contest] Fw: [DX-CHAT] Clublog/Leaderboiard run AMOK??
kzerohb at gmail.com
Mon Oct 24 18:30:52 PDT 2011
Yes, I still believe that cheaters are an insignificant minority.
How many stations worked T32C? Let's just say 20,000 to pick a reasonable
number, maybe a little on the low side.
How many players deliberately scammed the scoring system? 10? 25? 50? A
fraction of a percent.
They're jerks to be sure, but you and I are not belittled by these flippin'
Keep the faith.
73, Hans, K0HB
From: Kostas Stamatis
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:45 PM
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Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fw: [DX-CHAT] Clublog/Leaderboiard run AMOK??
Do you still believe that the cheaters are minority in our world?
73 Kostas sv1dpi........
As I said to a DX newsletter editor when this news broke the other day:
Un - flippin' - believable.
And "flippin" isn't exactly the precise wording I had in mind, but this is a
There is a certain mentality running around our ranks these days of "win at
any and all costs", combined with the pseudo-legalese of "if it's not
expressly and specifically prohibited, it is by default allowed." This,
sadly, is an extension of that line of thought.
That induhviduals would stoop so low as to take unethical (IMHO) and
unsportsmanlike (IMHO) steps like these, merely to put themselves at the
alleged top of the heap? Belittles them, and if we allow it, belittles us
There is no excuse for this type of behavior, and if those who are doing it
are caught, there should be sanctions. But they won't be caught, and even
if they were, somehow the sanctions never do hold up.
On 10/23/11, Gary K9GS<garyk9gs at wi.rr.com> wrote:
SB DX @ WW< KB8NW $OPDX.1033
Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin No. 1033
The Ohio/Penn DX PacketCluster
DX Bulletin No. 1033
October 24, 2011
Editor Tedd Mirgliotta, KB8NW
Provided by BARF80.ORG (Cleveland, Ohio)
* LEADERBOARD SCORING AT T32C: Michael/G7VJR and Marios/5B4WN from the
"Club Log" web page<http://www.clublog.org> report the following:
"During the T32C expedition, a large number of stations have succeeded
in working the maximum number of slots possible, or share the same number
of slots as a large number of other stations. Using the 'first past the
post' scoring system, those who worked these slots first are ranked
highest. Duplicates count negatively.
This scoring system has been manipulated by a small number of stations
operating illegally. They have determined that by using someone else's
callsign and working T32C, they can create duplicates and force that
callsign down the leaderboard.
Ranking changes -- In response to this problem, the scoring system for
the T32C is changing to a ranking that does not penalize duplicate QSOs.
This removes the loophole that is being exploited. This change will be
made live on 19th October, with the agreement of the T32C expedition
team, to improve the fairness of the scoring."
I really thing this whole ClubLog/leaderboard thing has gotten out of hand.
People are actually CHEATING to improve their scores....amazing.
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