[CQ-Contest] Determining ASSISTED vs NON-ASSISTED -- was: =>RE: Chea

[Mike Fatchett W0MU]

Bob,

I think this is a big stretch.  The contest period to me is the period 
of time where valid contacts can be made.

What you are suggesting is at the end of the contest much like the Iowa 
Tests of Basic Skills put your pencil down and you are done.  At the end 
of the contest all loggers will lock down the log and you can't change 
it.  I don't think this is the intent of CQ or ARRL.  We all make 
mistakes in the heat of battle.  Most believe that obvious errors or 
notes can be addressed after the contest period has ended.  If not, why 
are the dates to submit logs a month out form most contests?

I am not saying that complete massaging of a log should be acceptable 
either.  In the old days we duped on the fly and then reduped and 
corrected our penmanship issues was we went through the manual log.  
Should an entrant not be given a chance to look for obvious typos and 
correct them?

The issue we have is that 10 people read the rules and we can have 10 
different opinions of what the rules say.  If there is to be no log 
fixes after 2359:59 then the rules should be specific and say so.


Mike W0MU

J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011 CQ WW DX CW
W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net


On 9/28/2011 6:38 AM, Bob Naumann wrote:
> Peter,
>
> We're not discussing those with physical challenges such as you are
> mentioning nor are the rules written to address these sorts of exceptions.
>
> The contest is as follows: (from cqww.com)
>
> CQ WW DX Contest Rules 2011
> SSB: October 29 - 30 CW: November 26 - 27
> Starts 0000 UTC Saturday Ends 2400 UTC Sunday
>
> The contest ends at 2400 UTC Sunday. (Or, 23:59:59 really)
>
> Clearly, if someone does no logging at all during the contest, and begins
> the logging process after the contest ends, he is not logging during the
> contest.
>
> Such a practice would extend the contest period for that operator and is not
> permitted in any document I have ever seen for any contest.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob W5OV
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Peter Voelpel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:51 PM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Determining ASSISTED vs NON-ASSISTED -- was: =>RE:
> Chea
>
> I don´t agree I don´t find the rule that tape logging is not allowed.
> Where do I find that rule about transcriptions?
> No rule prohibits tape logging.
> The logging was done during the contest.
>
> I am just thinking of the blind, who never could send in a log without
> transcription.
>
> 73
> Peter, DJ7WW
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of w5ov at w5ov.com
>
>> 2nd situation:
>>
>> Op A is tired before the contest and decides to tape record everything
> and write it down after the contest, rather than keep a computer log
> during the contest. No other person helped him with the tape recording
> or transcription functions before or after the contest. Is this allowed
> in the SO Unasisted category?
>
> Short answer: No.
>
> Explanation: This is a trick question because transcribing the contest
> after the contest is not allowed in any category. The logging must be done
> during the contest period - the contest ends at 23:59z.
>
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