[CQ-Contest] HA: Reverse Beacon Network News - hopefully ofgeneralinterest

Vladimir Sidarau vs_otw at rogers.com
Tue Aug 14 08:46:09 PDT 2012


Do you really mean, if there is a DX in the zone 38, you want a RBN station
in the same zone to help you copy the DX?

73,
Vladimir VE3IAE

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[mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] От имени BP Veal
Отправлено: August-14-12 9:28 AM
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Тема: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reverse Beacon Network News - hopefully
ofgeneralinterest


RBN is the best tool for our hobby in many, many, years-  I often use it for
understanding propagation, both with my own call sign spots and others of
interest.  I use it for DX second, and third for contesting.  This is mostly
in my order of interests.  I wish we had more RBN stations in Asia, South
America and Africa and especially in zones 22,18, 38, 39, 29, 17.   Pile ups
are going to happen regardless of these spots- The good of the system far
outweighs any possible conflict.   Thx to all who have helped develop and
expand the system- 
 
73
 
   
Bryon "Paul" Veal  MAED
FCC Amateur Radio License-N0AH
n0ah at arrl.net
Home Page at http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/HamRadioPropagation/


 

> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 23:54:17 -0400
> From: olinger at bellsouth.net
> To: w8ji at w8ji.com
> CC: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reverse Beacon Network News - hopefully 
> ofgeneralinterest
> 
> I use an offset of 50-60 Hz, which by some unknown general mental 
> process, seems to be just enough to avoid being in the inseparable 
> monotonic muddle. Calling up 200 or 300 Hz I think properly invokes 
> your objection. With the general narrowing of CQ spacing post Elecraft 
> K3, et al, maybe 100 Hz invokes your objection. What surprises me 
> still is the number of people who call up and down 300 Hz, or 
> sometimes more, without intending to. But that's a different subject.
> 
> 73, Guy.
> 
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Tom W8JI <w8ji at w8ji.com> wrote:
> >> On 8/13/2012 7:20 AM, Martin , LU5DX wrote:
> >>> I surely also understand Jim's concerns about gigantic pile ups 
> >>> with all stations calling exactly in the same frequency due to the 
> >>> RBN spots. I hope it is just a matter of time till ops realize we 
> >>> need to start calling stations a little off the spotted frequency.
> >
> >> I'm not a BIG contester, But have been contesting since 1975, LONG 
> >> before any of this existed. And as soon as I heard a pileup made by 
> >> a RBN spot I did notice how everyone was "Spot On" (pun intended)
> >>
> >> And my first thought if I was to use this RBN network, I would at 
> >> the same time turn on my XIT to slide a tad off the mess some. I 
> >> thought everyone would do that and that this was not a unique 
> >> thought. But I guess not.
> >
> >
> > I wonder what other's think about that method.
> >
> > I think just tuning off frequency by pushing a button to avoid a 
> > pileup center is poor operating practice, because it can jam someone 
> > already using a frequency. I wonder if this practice is common, and 
> > if it why when running on a frequency a long time, some random 
> > person will show up just sending his callsign over and over, outside the
"pileup range".
> >
> > IMO a much better policy is to NOT spread out unless we listen first 
> > and make sure no one is using the frequency.
> >
> > Of course I dislike the whole notion of just saying "up", or saying "up"
> > without a specific frequency split, because it causes needless QRM. 
> > Of course it is understood good manners go away in contests because 
> > it is competition, but I wonder if some consideration of others 
> > still exists in some form, and to what extent it reasonably exists.
> >
> > 73 Tom
> >
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