[CQ-Contest] CQ WW Scoring System needs revision?

[Martin , LU5DX]

LOL.
Nobody is trying to fix anything. Just make it even better for the rest of
the world.
Not only for zone 33/35 stations.
It's pretty obvious why you don't want any changes.
When you say you spent big bucks to set world records. Do you think those
records mean other different that just spending big bucks?
In fact, there are world records that have been standing for long years
that were set totally outside of the limits of the rules.
How come some serious contester dare to say Dont Fix CQWW????
I mean, it's all okay, but at least let's realize that you set a world
records that's pretty meaningless. Because the competition as it is, cannot
be representative at a world wide level at all. So best case scenario is
you set a Record for CN, that happens to be the highest score in the world
because of a geographically favored location, of course, really good ops
too, and a scoring system that favors stations in that area.
So, let's face it CQ WW is pretty much a competition of big bucks spent in
zone 33/35 and to some extent zone 9 and recently this past CQ WW DX CW for
zone 8 (TO7A...).


Best 73.

Martin, LU5DX

P.S. Anyways. Don't woryy. Nothing is going to happen, with the possible
exception of parallel unofficial results based on distance scoring. As far
as I know, the editor of CQ Magazine already said a big NO to possible
changes. But anyways, discussion is good.




On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Dimitri RA3CO <ra9co at yahoo.com> wrote:

> The best post in the thread. Do not fix what is not broken. Anyone that
> wants a new "fair" contest is welcome to
>
> a) enroll into a WRTC competition
> or
> b) sponsor a new contest with fair rules.
>
> We had similar thoughts in z16 looking at our stacked yagis in different
> directions when losing to z14 stations with tribanders. Then we packed up
> and went to z33 and claimed two new records in MS this year. Yes it did
> involve spending a lot if dollars and man-hours. But it still feels
> "fair'er" than changing the scoring system.
>
>
> Do not "fix" CQ WW.
>
>
> Dimitri
> RA3CO, CN2AA
>
>
> ----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> John Boudreau
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 4:57 AM
> To: CQ-Contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Scoring System needs revision?
>
> I've been following this thread with interest but I strongly feel there
> seems to be a basic misconception about amateur radio contesting in general
> and that has to do with the issue of "fairness".  There should never be ANY
> expectation of fairness in this game because it just isn't possible.  The
> overriding factors of location, location, and location preclude any
> attempts
> to make a "level playing field".  Even reasonable sounding ideas like
> distance based scoring still cannot erase the overwhelming advantage of
> being in the "right" place, depending on which contest we're talking about.
> "Fairness" is not a part of radio contesting (or DXing for that matter).
> Once people can get past that they'll have a lot more fun.  It's not that
> its un-fair to anyone, it's just that fairness isn't part of the equation.
>
> For CQWW, the current timing, rules, and scoring has resulted in the most
> popular radiosport event in the world.  Why would anyone want to change
> anything?  The implementation of the overlay categories is a stroke of
> genius that allows for unlimited possibilities for a "contests within a
> contest" so why not make full use of this excellent feature.  Distance
> scoring overlays, limited time categories, QRP-only, easter eggs, whatever.
> It is perfect for satisfying whatever perceived needs there are for
> modifications to the basic contest rules.
>
> If you want to "win" CQWW it is not a secret how it is done.  Learn how to
> be a first-rate contest operator, buy property in the right place, and
> spend
> $100,000 on equipment and antennas.  Make this investment and you -might-
> just have a shot at winning...a $50 plaque and the fleeting admiration of
> your peers.  The good news is that anyone and everyone can just jump in and
> have fun regardless of their skill level, location, or setup, and have a
> blast.  And they do, in absolutely astounding numbers.  Did I mention that
> it is the most popular contest in the world?  Why change a thing?
>
> 73
> John VE8EV
>
>
>
>
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