[CQ-Contest] Increasing contest participation

KU7Y ku7y.cw at gmail.com
Thu Dec 5 17:25:09 EST 2013


Power level too.

I keep track of my QRP contacts!

OK, back in my hole,

Ron, KU7Y
CWOps #1211
Northern California Contest Club
Arizona Outlaws Contest Club
Silver Springs, NV
ku7y at qsl.net
http://www.hatpinsandmore.com
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Sacco NN4X" <nn4x at embarqmail.com>
To: "cq contest" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: 05 December, 2013 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Increasing contest participation


> 
> You also need to consider "date/time".  It's important for many awards.
> 
> 73,
> Steve
> NN4X
> 
> 
> On 12/5/2013 9:02 AM, Larry wrote:
> > "Same call sign/same band/same mode = dupe."
> >
> > Not necessarily. You may need to consider QTH. If you move more than 
> 25 miles you get to start WAS over as an example. But that is a 
> different topic from the subject at hand.
> >
> > 73, Larry  W6NWS
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: James Cain
> > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 6:04 AM
> > To: Steve Lott
> > Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Increasing contest participation
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > The subject line of my post was just a "teaser." (I used to be a 
> newspaper editor and one of my jobs was writing headlines.)
> >
> > The solution to overloading LotW is for LotW not to store dupes. Same 
> call sign/same band/same mode = dupe. This purging of dupes would be 
> done at LotW and participants could opt out of it if they want their 
> LotW log to continue to show dozens of "QSLs" from the same station on 
> the same band and mode (although I can't imagine why they would).
> >
> > My own 25,000 QSLs on LotW are, to make a wild guess, maybe as much 
> as 75 per cent dupes, since I work the same contests, and the same 
> stations, year after year. Go ahead LotW, purge away!
> >
> > I don't know where you got that line about "The responsibility of a 
> QSL ..." It is not apropos to my proposal. LotW is a "Third Party." 
> Think QSL managers, for another example of a "Third Party." Or how about 
> using your credit card to order a QSL, and getting a QSL with a printed 
> sticker and maybe no signature? How many third party hands (and 
> machines) did that transaction pass through?
> >
> > Have you noticed how many DXpeditions offer "order-a-QSL" with no 
> desire for a QSL from you? And how many DXpeditions now will send the 
> QSO info for you to LotW after you send them a couple of dollars? You 
> can even order an LotW credit and opt out of receiving a paper QSL (my 
> favorite). These methods seem to have perfectly adequate safeguards for 
> integrity (checking the log, etc). These are the waves of the future.
> >
> > I heard from a couple of people who treasure their collection of 
> 100,000 paper QSLs filed away in homemade wood cabinets. Nothing will 
> take that away from them. But not all of us live in the town we were 
> born in.
> >
> > My proposal in no way would affect hams who want to pay for printed 
> QSLs and send them through the mail. But ask a young person what they 
> think about exchanging "post cards" through "the mail" to prove that 
> they talked to somebody on their radio, and watch their eyes glaze over.
> >
> > Jim Cain, K1TN
> >
> >
> >
> >  Jim on the surface (first glance) this may seem like an easy answer
> >
> >
> >  However if the sponsors uploaded in bulk to the LOTW server there 
> would be many crashes of the LOTW site
> >
> >  the band width would be extraordinary
> >
> >
> >  The responsibility of a QSL is still the station operator, not a 
> third party.
> >
> >
> >  I think we see plenty of increased activity in several of the bigger 
> contest
> >
> >  like CQWW and ARRL SS as well as Sweepstakes
> >
> >
> >  cheers!
> >
> >
> >  steve
> >
> >
> >
> >  KG5VK
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