[CQ-Contest] Topband: Stew Perry Streaming Audio

[n1cc at jlaporta.com]

The available methodology for streaming video/audio can allow instant or
somewhat time delayed broadcast of what you send and receive.  The vendor
that I use, "justin.tv", provides a load-dependent delay ... I used it
during Christmas Carol this year -- when active the delay is 15 to 30
seconds, depending on the network loading as well as the density of users on
your site.  I chose the "free" option that puts commercial interruptions on
your stream that further delays you and at somewhat random times.  You can
PAY for the stream, and put a delay of up to 180 seconds on your stream at
the provider, and not have the random advertising.

My own results using it were good, until the last hour of the SSB
stream/audio when a "jamming nut" started rebroadcasting my delayed audio
and the audio of the calling stations on my 20 Meter frequency.  I stood it
as long as I could, at a 120 QPH run rate, then I had to shut the audio
off... with nothing to send the "jammer" started playing old Frank Sinatra
music.  He faded out somewhat (was a transmitter in the western USA and
faded out with the southern California callers) and I kept up the run till
end of my "advertised" special event at 100+ work rate.  For the non-jamming
periods I have gotten a lot of results from guys via Email and their QSLs so
far that thanked me for the stream so they could hear how they sounded at my
station.

So, if you are doing a special event on phone, I now know that streaming is
a "NO-NO" because we do have idiots in this world that will jam you.  If you
are in a contest, and moving about, and want either non-hams or guys not in
the contest to hear what is going on it is a very nice tool -- and can be a
recruiting tool for folks too.  Contests and Stew Perry-like events attract
jammers too, we all just move off the frequency when that becomes a bother,
a Special Event stays too long on a frequency to not end up with these
criminals coming on to you to create their own "delight at crime"

I think Eric should have streamed the Stew Perry, I don't think anyone would
have any advantage by listening to his stream, since it should have been
somewhat delayed... if Joe could not make it delay, well folks will argue
about that one.

73, Jim N1CC

Amateur Radio Station N1CC 
Contesting and DX
Email: n1cc at arrl.net
http://www.jlaporta.com/N1CC 

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 8:35 AM
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Topband: Stew Perry Streaming Audio

I do not know how hard this is to do. but a fix for the cheaters would be if
like a radio Station does where it's somewhat live with people calling in on
the phone a delay.

There is a Public station near me that takes in callers a LOT and they have
a LONG delay. it is Like2 minutes long!

This would cure the cheaters from using it. yet allow the rest that just
want to listen to be able to.

What Puzzles me is why "THIS" streaming one had such a backlash? How many
times has a Certain KH6 Station streamed during a major contest? 
And no one said anything about it?

Joe WB9SBD
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On 12/28/2013 7:50 PM, Steven Raas wrote:
> I can see the cause for concern, however it can be solved easily. Use 
> the side tone out of a keyer instead of the build in side tone from 
> the radio, thus eliminating what he is actually sending over the live 
> stream.  Worth the extra effort, well only Eric can make that call. I 
> for one would have had much enjoyment out of listening to this. Perhaps
next time.
>
> -Steve Raas
> N2JDQ
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Eric NO3M <no3m at no3m.net> wrote:
>
>> Since there seems to be too much concern over this, though no ill 
>> intent was intended, audio will not be broadcast.
>>
>> GL / 73 Eric NO3M
>>
>> On 12/28/2013 06:23 AM, Stan Stockton wrote:
>>
>>> Eric,
>>>
>>> You made it clear what you were doing, and I am quite sure Clive 
>>> understood.  I think the logic behind his question has to do with 
>>> whether it is within the spirit of the contest -  especially this 
>>> one.  Let's say, as a result of the announcement or advertisement , 
>>> 15 DX stations and 25 USA stations who are not even going to send in 
>>> their log called you, just for fun and the novelty of it, so they 
>>> could listen to their own signal at your end via Internet.
>>>
>>> What if some have enough QRM or QRN that they could only copy 
>>> whether you came back to them by listening via internet? Fair to your
competitors?
>>>
>>> It is cool, but I've always had a problem with this, regardless of 
>>> what contest.
>>>
>>> 73...Stan, K5GO
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
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