[CQ-Contest] ARRL Cheating in ARRL using the cluster

Pete Smith N4ZR n4zr at contesting.com
Mon Feb 18 18:04:31 EST 2013


Hi Jim - I was using a simple Unique>2 filter and limiting spots to 
PA/MD/VA/NC/WV sources.  All this on K1TTT's ARC6 node.

for the record - this just in- the RBN posted 3,937,111 spots during 
ARRL CW, or 22.7 spots/second average.  I'm sure peaks were at least 2X 
that, maybe more.

73, Pete N4ZR
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For spots, please go to your favorite
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On 2/18/2013 4:04 PM, Jim Jordan wrote:
> Wow! I wish NY4A could have found wherever it was you were getting 
> your spots. We filtered out dozens of busted calls and skimmer 
> perversions like "EK3LR", dropped leading letters, "O" for "Q" and the 
> phenomenon reported where the spot was for, or on top of the mult, 
> picking up the calling station as the runner, etc. And like 
> "Whack-A-Mole" we'd delete them from the band map and a little while 
> later the same busts were back again. All pretty annoying as M/2 
> trying to work them quickly and get back to the run frequency without 
> losing it.
>
> Having said that, seeing the "instant spots" from all over coming up 
> instead of having to wait for someone to manually post the spot made a 
> big positive difference. I noticed it when we went to a new band or 
> had to change frequency.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, K4QPL @NY4A
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Smith N4ZR" 
> <n4zr at contesting.com>
> To: "CQ Contest" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL Cheating in ARRL using the cluster
>
>
>> Are we talking about the same contest, Bob?  No reason that the 
>> Russians would be working 9H1s.
>>
>> Actually, I'm more interested in the busted calls you reported. It's 
>> not that busts don't happen, because they do, but because 
>> readily-available filtering can catch almost all of them.  I was only 
>> on for 10 hours and 1000 contacts, but they were almost all S&P.  I 
>> worked out 3 or 4 bands at a time - 0 spots waiting to be worked - 
>> and in that time I saw exactly 1 bust that made it through to me.
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at
>> http://reversebeacon.net,
>> blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
>> For spots, please go to your favorite
>> ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.
>>
>> On 2/18/2013 12:27 PM, w5ov at w5ov.com wrote:
>>> A lot of this seems to be the Skimmer/RBN network reporting the station
>>> the runners are working.
>>>
>>> Probably not anyone cheating in the manner you describe.
>>>
>>> I found this a LOT. (Among all the other busted calls).
>>>
>>> W5OV
>>> (80m @ K3LR)
>>>
>>>
>>>> It seems like a couple of Russian station are cheating using the 
>>>> cluster.
>>>>
>>>> I operated AB unlimited over the weekend and was checking spots the 
>>>> whole
>>>> weekend.
>>>>
>>>> As the contest progressed over the weekend semi rare mults were worth
>>>> QSYing to.  Over a dozen times as soon as the call appeared on my 
>>>> band map
>>>>   I
>>>> QSYed to it only to UT0U merrily CQing away.  (There I named a  call!)
>>>> Another U station did the same thing but I forgot to get his  
>>>> call.  The
>>>> calls
>>>> spotted were semi-rare mults like (9H1 etc), but rare enough to 
>>>> attract a
>>>> crowd.  Once would be a coincidence, but it happened  many times.  
>>>> Every
>>>> time
>>>> there was no hint of the station spotted.   Pure out and out cheating!
>>>>
>>>> Did anyone else see that behavior?  The only way to stop this crap 
>>>> is to
>>>> put pressure on them.
>>>>
>>>> Bill K4XS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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