[CQ-Contest] Finally - self spotting has become a mute point!

Radio K0HB kzerohb at gmail.com
Fri Feb 22 20:00:48 EST 2013


The bigger question is why would anyone spot anyone except themselves?

Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.

73, Hans, K0HB/4ID

On Thursday, February 21, 2013, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:

> It was about 3-1/2 years ago I asked the question below, on this
> reflector. The third full paragraph contains the core concept I was asking
> / proposing. It didn't take too long for the technology to 'change the game
> plan' once again! Yes, I'm gloating! Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk...  :-)
>
> Regarding those people objecting that the RBN isn't delivering a pristine
> stream of data, my opinion is that the existing level of accuracy is more
> than adequate. For example, K3LR pops up on my bandmap and I work him. His
> call sign turns gray, letting me know I have already worked him.
>
> Five minutes later, EK3LR pops up on the bandmap. Funny thing is that
> EK3LR is sitting right on the same frequency as the K3LR I already worked.
> My eyes and brain tells me instantaneously it's a bust. I don't waste time
> removing it from the bandmap because I know it's going to pop back up there
> again anyway. Cleaning the bandmap is a waste of contesting time.
>
> Now if there was only a way to eliminate the clueless from pointing and
> clicking their way to the elusive EK3 multiplier and causing havoc on the
> K3LR run frequency. (Or substitute any of the other traditionally busted
> spots; BY vs. 6Y, 5K vs. HK, etc. Oh and MY personal favorite KØRF vs.
> KØRC.)
>
> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>
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>  /  -----Original Message-----/
>> /  From: Robert Chudek - K0RC [mailto:k0rc at citlink.net]/
>> /  Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 02:18/
>> /  To: cq-contest at contesting.com/
>> /  Subject: [CQ-Contest] Self spotting rationale/
>> /  /
>> /  This isn't a rhetorical question./
>> /  /
>> /  How / why was the "no self spotting" rule created in the first place?
>> Was/
>> /  it a knee-jerk reaction to the introduction of new technology at the
>> time/
>> /  spotting networks began to flourish? What actual purpose does this
>> rule/
>> /  serve? Whatever that purpose, is it outdated by technology?/
>> /  /
>> /  The use of the spotting networks automatically classifies a
>> participant as/
>> /  "assisted" in the first place. To the non-assisted participants, why
>> would/
>> /  they care whether stations were self-spotting or not? When I operate
>> in/
>> /  the non-assisted category I don't care what is going on with the
>> spotting/
>> /  network./
>> /  /
>> /  To the participants in the "assisted" category, why not let them spot/
>> /  their brains out? Other than saturating the spotting network I don't
>> see a/
>> /  down-side to this. If an assisted station spotted themselves once
>> every X/
>> /  minutes, many things would "fall into place."/
>> /  /
>> /  First, there would be fewer busted calls being spotted. Second,
>> assisted/
>> /  operators would know which bands were being used by the self spotter
>> (are/
>> /  they operating 10 meters right now or not?). Third, self spotting
>> timers/
>> /  could evolve in contest software to spot on a predetermined schedule./
>> /  Fourth, David's spotting reports would not be necessary to see who was/
>> /  breaking the rules. Fifth, I wouldn't have to worry whether my call
>> would/
>> /  appear on a report as "helping my team mates in our contest club" when
>> I/
>> /  spot the members. (I have basically quit spotting anyone compared to
>> the/
>> /  early days of the spotting network.)/
>> /  /
>> /  I can only imagine if Wal-Mart, Target, and K-Mart were not allowed to/
>> /  advertise their stores were open for business and what times you would/
>> /  find them open. I think the "no self spotting" rule is absurd./
>> /  /
>> /  73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>>
>
> /
>
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