[CQ-Contest] Single Op/Get Scores Assisted

Mon Feb 25 11:20:46 EST 2013

I would say nothing from the internet except for personal safety (i.e. 
local WX radar) and non-contesting entertainment (i.e. CNN).

Despite what the rules currently allow, I will not be viewing the score 
reporting sites when I am unassisted.

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 02/25/2013 07:59 AM, Cqtestk4xs at aol.com wrote:
> Does that mean no WWV reports from the internet?
>
> K4XS
>
>
> In a message dated 2/25/2013 2:02:38 P.M. Coordinated Universal Time,
> ku7y.cw at gmail.com writes:
>
> Seems to  me that maybe what's needed is a rule that prohibits a SO
> Unassisted from  having any internet connection.
>
> After all, if you are in a contest as  SO Unassisted, what the heck do you
> need the internet for?
>
> OK, back  in my hole,
>
> Ron, KU7Y
> SOWP 5545M
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> Silver Springs,  NV
> ku7y at qsl.net
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stan Stockton"<wa5rtg at gmail.com>
> To:<w1ve at yccc.org>
> Cc:<n2ic at arrl.net>; "CQ-Contest"<cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent:  25 February, 2013 4:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Single Op/Get Scores  Assisted
>
>
>> It doesn't matter if all the single ops leave off the  band breakdowns.
>> The same opening notifications and more will be  available by looking at
>> the multi-operator categories - particularly  M/M.
>>
>> As it grows the number of instances of call sign fills  for the guys you
>> couldn't quite copy on 160 will become more  prevalent....and using all
>> that information is now  allowed.
>>
>> Get Scores will tell you however often it is chosen  to update on what
> band
>> a particular station is running.  There  are no frequencies shown and
> that
>> has been determined to be OK. How  about adding all the stations from RBN
>> calling CQ but without  frequencies (just bands) shown?  Not a lot
>> different than what  you would have if everyone signed up for Get Scores.
>>
>> Let's  face the facts. You need to be on the Internet and take advantage
> of
>>   any and all internet assistance that is now allowed to maximize your
>>   success in a single operator, "unassisted" entry. Someone who does not
>> have a computer connected to the Internet does not have all the  possible
>> advantages of someone who does have that connection in an  unassisted
>> entry.
>>
>> 73...Stan, K5GO
>>
>>   Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2013, at 11:35 PM, Gerry Hull<gerry at yccc.org>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi  Steve,
>>>
>>> I do see your point.   The "player"  remark was unfortunate... I can see
>>> in
>>> these  situations where it could make a difference.
>>> So -- that's why you  guys don't post.   However, you could post,
>>>   motivating
>>> others, by posting score not breakdown.  That is  totally feasible.
>>> That way, in your instance N2IC would see K5GN's  score going up, but
> have
>>> no idea why.
>>>
>>> When  K5ZD posts, he always masks his breakdown.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you  would consider posting your score if the site automatically
>>> masked  the breakdown of SO stations?
>>>
>>> Food for  thought...
>>>
>>> I'm off to 8P in the morning... play more  radio than internet.
>>>
>>> 73.  Gerry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb  24, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Steve London<n2icarrl at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Gerry Hull<gerry at yccc.org>    wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Stan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Getscores has been up  for more than five years, and the Russian site
>>>>>>   has
>>>>>> been up for a year or so.  No contesting  authority has made any
>>>>>>   restriction
>>>>>> against the sites, and I don't think they  will.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are using the  score posting site to make decisions about what
>>>>>>   to
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> in a contest, you are  not a player at  all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Gerry, I  don't know how to interpret this statement.
>>>>
>>>>   There is no doubt that the score posting system could provide  valuable
>>>> information to the single-op, unassisted, serious  competitor. Last
>>>> weekend's ARRL DX CW is a perfect example.  N2IC(/5) and K5GN were both
>>>> SOAB
>>>> HP, vying  for the top spot in W5, and top-10 national positions.
> Neither
>>>> of
>>>> us posted to, or watched the score posting  sites, even though there is
>>>> nothing in the rules to stop us.  However, for the sake of discussion,
>>>> let's
>>>>   say K5GN posted his score, with band breakdowns, and N2IC was
> observing
>>>> the
>>>> score posting site. During the actual  contest, K5GN did indeed catch
>>>> good
>>>> European  openings on 20 meters during the wee hours of the morning,
> both
>>>> mornings. N2IC did not, and in fact, didn't look for  those openings.
>>>> K5GN
>>>> made many more 20 meter  QSO's, and finished ahead of N2IC. If N2IC
>>>>   could,
>>>> at a glance, see that K5GN was suddenly piling on 20  meter QSO's at
>>>> strange
>>>> times of the day, do  you think he would react to that information ?
>>>>   Would
>>>> he still be a "player" ? Would he still be unassisted  ?
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Steve,  N2IC
>>>>
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