[CQ-Contest] How to be sure you have 60+ minutes off time

[Steve London]

There's no "new math" involved here. It's simply that the Cabrillo 
standard only specifies QSO times down to a 1 minute resolution. Look at 
any of you Cabrillo logs and you will see that. In addition, all of the 
logging programs truncate the seconds from time stamp, writing "0100" in 
the Cabrillo log for a QSO that was completed at 01:00:59. Therefore if 
QSO's show in the Cabrillo log as:

2000
2100

then there could be as little as 59 minutes and 1 second between those 
QSO's. That is not a 60 minutes time off.

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 07/03/2013 11:04 AM, Hank Greeb wrote:
> Thanks Ward, for the education in New Math.
>
> DUMB LID me (self assigned but accurate). I assumed that 60+ minutes was
> 60+ minutes.
>
> I hadn't read the rules, assumed that a "somewhat standard" 30 minutes
> was the rule for break times. I had a 45 minute break for lunch, but,
> just for the fish (halibut) I decided to check the rules whilst eating
> dinner and found out that about the hour minimum for a break.
> So, whilst eating that same dinner, I noted that the last contact in the
> log was22:01::25 That's 22 hours 01 minute and 25 seconds.
> I was looking very carefully, and when 23:01::25 came around I made
> another contact which was logged at 23.01::33 in the N1MM Log.
>
> I learned back in grammar school, basic arithmetic,that 1 hour and 6
> seconds was OVER 60 minutes. But, you tell me that there's some "new
> math" in play. So, I'm a DUMB LID because I didn't take a course inthis
> "new math."
>
> I'd be ticked off if itactually mattered, but I only operated about 20
> hours. I conclude that in New Math, a 60minute break actually means
> 61minutes. Thanks for educating me.
>
> 72/73 de n8xx DUMB LID Hg
> QRP >99.44% of the time
>
> On 7/3/2013 12:00 PM, Ward Silver <hwardsil at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 13:49:50 -0500
>> From: Ward Silver<hwardsil at gmail.com>
>> To:cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Rules for 2013 Announced
>>
>>
>> On 7/2/2013 11:00 AM,cq-contest-request at contesting.com wrote:
>>> Each time you take a break of 60 minutesvor more, the clock stops for
>>> the duration of that break, then re-starts when you do.
>> It is important to note that "60 minutes" means (as far as I know) 60
>> consecutive "empty" clock minutes during which no QSO was logged.
>> (Seconds are not considered - again, as far as I know.)
>>
>> This is a valid 60-minute off time in a log:
>> 1358 QSO
>> 1359 QSO
>> first empty minute at 1400
>> last empty minute at 1459
>> 1500 QSO
>> 1501 QSO
>>
>> This is NOT a valid 60-minute off time in a log:
>> 1358 QSO
>> 1359 QSO
>> first empty minute at 1400
>> last empty minute at 1458
>> 1459 QSO
>> 1500 QSO
>>
>> There must be 60 consecutive "empty" minutes. The "time B minus time A"
>> gap of 1459 - 1359 = 60 does not meet the 60-minute test because only 59
>> consecutive minutes are actually "empty" - the last "empty" minute is
>> 1458, not 1459.
>>
>> Leaving a gap of 60 "empty" minutes is always the safest way to be sure
>> one is in compliance with off-time minimum-break rules since the exact
>> requirement is rarely stated exactly, nor are the consequences of a
>> violation spelled out. Be safe and don't lose a big chunk of your log
>> because you were one minute too hasty!
>>
>> If this is incorrect, please educate me, contest sponsors.
>>
>> 73, Ward N0AX
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