[CQ-Contest] : Reverse beacon of my own call?

[Richard F DiDonna NN3W]

As one who spends a lot of time parsing words in regulations and in 
rules, I'm bothered by some of this discussion.

It says that the use of DX cluster, packet, local or remote callsign and 
frequency decoding technology technologies (with the examples of CW 
skimmer and RBN) are tools that earn one the categorization of 
"assisted" but ONLY if the source "provides call sign or multiplier 
identification" AND "frequency" information to the operator.

The classic form of RBN does that.  As does DX Summit and skimmer.

So what happens if the site provides callsign and multiplier information 
but not frequency?
What happens if the site provides frequency but not precise callsign?  
What about this?

DX   21.200.4 DLxxxxx     1454z
DX   14.151.1 W3xxx       1455z

or......

DX 21.200.4 xL4AWL      1454z
DX 14.151.1 x3LPL          1455z

The callsign isn't being provided.  At least one element is missing in 
the term of QSO alerting assistance (as defined by CQWW), which 
according to the rules, requires 1) the callsign or multiplier, AND 2) 
the frequency.



On 7/25/2013 9:49 AM, Martin , LU5DX wrote:
> Bob. There is no need for an exception.
> Since the rules mention RBN in this case being used for a very specific
> use: QSO Alerting Assistance.
> The term RBN so clearly being bound to VIII, restricts its meaning to only
> that case of use.
> Monitoring our own signal, being decoded by a machine, has nothing to do
> with QSO alerting assistance.
>
> Unless rules are very specific, ambiguous interpretation takes place.
>
> In a case like this, somebody needs to decide which way of understanding
> the rule is right or wrong, because as you see, you will continue to see it
> one way and other people will see it the opposite.
>
> 73.
>
> Martin, LU5DX
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Bob Naumann <W5OV at w5ov.com> wrote:
>
>> His is my last posting on this subject.
>>
>> "QSO alerting assistance" is specifically *defined* in the rules for use in
>> helping to better understand how that term applies to the rules.
>>
>> This does not mean you can replace that definition with your own
>> interpretation of the term; the rules define how the term is used in the
>> context of the rules.
>>
>> If it were not defined in the rules, then it would be subject to
>> interpretation. Hence, the reason it is defined in the rules.
>>
>> One may not agree with how it is defined, but that's a completely different
>> discussion.
>>
>> Again, the rule says:
>>
>>                  Single Operator: *QSO alerting assistance of any kind* is
>> prohibited (see VIII.2).
>>
>> We then look at the definition of "QSO alerting assistance" in VIII.2 and
>> we
>> see (among other things):
>>
>>                 e.g.; Reverse Beacon Network
>>
>> So, using this specific example provided *in the rules* of the term causing
>> the most trouble ("QSO alerting assistance"), we can restate the first rule
>> as:
>>
>>            Single Operator: "Reverse Beacon Network" of any kind is
>> prohibited (see VIII.2).
>>
>> You could similarly insert " DX cluster", "packet", "local or remote call
>> sign and frequency decoding technology", or even "CW Skimmer" in the rule
>> in
>> order to better understand it.
>>
>>             e.g.; Single Operator: "local or remote call sign and frequency
>> decoding technology" of any kind is prohibited (see VIII.2).
>>
>> There is no exception listed in the rules allowing ANY use of ANY of these
>> technologies including RBN by unassisted Single Operators.
>>
>> Again, feel free to use the RBN, just that when you do, you're assisted by
>> rule.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Bob W5OV
>> Single-Op Assisted (most of the time)
>>
>>
>>