[CQ-Contest] Logs - Upload don't email

[py4was]

Yes, the contest page containing the relation of the log's received, is the 
best guarantee that the log was received and is OK.

Ed - PY4WAS

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Randy Thompson K5ZD" <k5zd at charter.net>
To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Logs - Upload don't email


> Many contests offer a logs received page.  Given the issues with email and
> spam filters, the sponsor's logs received page is your best bet for
> confirmation of log received.
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Bob Naumann
>> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:07 PM
>> To: 'Sean Cavanaugh'; 'Katsuhiro Kondou'
>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Logs - Upload don't email
>>
>> None of these technical speculations really solve this problem do they?
>>
>> Q: What is the answer?
>>
>> A: The answer is that the sender has *total responsibility* to send the
>> email to the right address.  When he does, the robot will respond with a
>> confirmation - usually within minutes if not sooner.
>>
>> So, if the sender does not get a confirmation that his log was received
>> in good order, *he alone has the responsibility* to follow up on it.
>>
>> The contest sponsor has absolutely no responsibility until the log is
>> correctly received by their "robot" system.
>>
>> So - what should you do?
>>
>> 1) Check that you're sending to the right address
>> 2) Send your properly formatted log
>> 3) Watch for a confirmation from the robot
>> 4)
>>   a) If you don't get a confirmation in a reasonable time:
>> 1) Check YOUR SPAM folder/system to see if it's there
>> 2) If not, then go back to step #1
>>   b) If you do get a confirmation, you're all set.
>>
>> de W5OV
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Sean Cavanaugh
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:07 PM
>> To: Katsuhiro Kondou
>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Logs - Upload don't email
>>
>> I suppose I was a bit lax in terminology.
>>
>> It technically doesn't violate the SMTP spec to not send a DSN, but from
>> the RFC 5321 (SMTP) and RFC 821 (Old SMTP) standards, both state that if
>> a message is not able to be forwarded or delivered, "the message MUST be
>> returned as undeliverable." (RFC 5321) There is exceptions for things
>> like harmful or invalid return addresses, but I'd presume a log sent from
>> a properly formatted email address is neither of those.
>>
>> It breaks a lot of things, including user expectations, to just have a
>> message disappear into the ether.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Sean - VA5LF
>>
>> On 2013-06-12, at 6:21 PM, Katsuhiro Kondou <kondou at voyackey.net> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <D1B4A9A8-E416-4CF4-97D3-DB349FD24DBE at unixgeeks.ca>,
>> > Sean Cavanaugh <seanc at unixgeeks.ca> wrote,
>> > on "Wed, 12 Jun 2013 12:26:38 -0600";
>> >
>> >> Most servers send back a Delivery Status Notification (DSN) saying
>> >> the
>> mail was undeliverable. I'm rather surprised the ARRL server doesn't, as
>> it is very useful for both informing someone they sent the message to the
>> wrong address, and for diagnosing any mail delivery problems that occur.
>> It also violates the applicable standards (RFC 5321), but it seems a lot
>> of people are willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater when it
>> comes to fighting spam.
>> >
>> > I don't think it violate, since DSN is RFC3461, which is just an SMTP
>> > extention.
>> > --
>> > Katsuhiro "Don" Kondou, JH5GHM
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