[CQ-Contest] Contest spotting

[Stan Stockton]

Dave,

Well I just assumed he was talking about not allowing competitors to use clusters as part of the contest rules.  Not allowing the use of clusters as part of the contest rules has no effect on the casual guy who gets on to work some DX as in your example.  I was just saying that those casual operators can do anything they want and are not bound by any contest rules.

This particular grumpy, disenfranchised old man is absolutely fine with allowing those who want to use clusters or for that matter any Internet based assistance to do so in their own category but doesn't really like the movement to eliminate the ability of others to compete in a category where it is not allowed.  Hopefully it doesn't sound too grumpy or too liberal to say... Live and let live.

73...Stan, K5GO


On Mar 9, 2013, at 9:37 PM, David Gilbert <xdavid at cis-broadband.com> wrote:

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> I'm pretty sure he asked what would happen if nobody used cluster spots, and the various online clusters have just about replaced VHF packet systems for the great majority of users.  I can also guarantee that casual contesters are not going to be thinking about setting up remote receivers and multiple stations.
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> I almost never use spotting clusters simply because I prefer not to, but I think it is way more than coincidence that the rise in contesting popularity has roughly paralleled the expansion in online clusters of various types, whether it's due to casual contesters looking for rich fields of DX or casual contesters looking to maximize their fun (making contacts) in a short period of time.
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> To be honest, I've never understood all this rabid animosity toward cluster users.  They undeniably add activity to the bands and they compete in their own categories.  Anyone who disapproves of cluster users loses NOTHING from their existence.  Every time I see one of these threads I picture grumpy, disenfranchised old men lamenting the fact that not everyone sees the world through their glasses.
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> Dave   AB7E
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> On 3/9/2013 5:53 PM, Stan Stockton wrote:
>> That is not a reason.  If they want to work DX, they will still be there.  "Casual contesters" are not competing for anything in the contest. They can use packet, have multiple stations, have receivers a thousand miles away or do anything else they want to work their DX.
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>> 73...Stan, K5GO
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Mar 9, 2013, at 4:14 PM, David Gilbert <xdavid at cis-broadband.com> wrote:
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>>> Most probably that a very large number of casual contesters, many of whom are participating primarily to work new DX, would not be there to give the rest of us contacts.
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>>> Dave   AB7E
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>>> On 3/9/2013 1:06 PM, Tom Osborne wrote:
>>>> What is the downside of nobody using cluster spots in contests?  73
>>>> 
>>>> Tom W7WHY
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