[CQ-Contest] When is speed not speedy?

[Joe]

other than the zero and nine if the person uses cut numbers they loose 
my contact.  I hate them, so just don't work anyone using them.
Or maybe I will next time just keep asking for repeats until i get 
actual numbers.
Joe WB9SBD
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On 5/30/2013 5:55 PM, Georgek5kg at aol.com wrote:
> John,
>   
> The worst example of a serial number using cut numbers happened to me twice
>   in WPX.  I worked two different stations that sent four digit serial
> numbers ending in 50. Using a cut number for the "zero", the two different
> stations sent -- at a very high speed -- dit dit dit dit dit  dah.  I  copied
> this as a 4, but I knew instinctively that something didn't  feel right
> because of the extra space before the  ending dah.  I had to ask for many repeats
> before I finally got  it!
>   
> BTW, I can easily copy something north of 40 wpm, so this was not  a case
> where the speed was over my head.  What was over my head was the cut  number
> for the "zero" a number 5.
>   
> My impression at the time was that these speed demon whiz kids  using their
> fancy-schmancy cut numbers had just wasted a bunch of my  time!
>   
> 73, Geo...
>   
> George  Wagner, K5KG
> Sarasota, FL
> 941-400-1960 cell
>
>   
> In a message dated 5/30/2013 6:29:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> john at kk9a.com writes:
>
> I think  if you are calling CQ at 20 wpm people should answer you at that
> speed. If  they call you at a much higher speed it is just rude. If you
> call someone,  they assume that you were already able to copy their
> callsign and that you  would be able to copy the report and recognize your
> callsign at their  speed. You probably already heard the report that they
> gave to the station  before you so you should already have some idea what
> to expect. I think it  is unrealistic to expect a running station to match
> the speed of every  caller.
>
> I also do not like cut numbers when I am expecting a serial  number,
> especially when it is sent as a mixture of real numbers and cut  ones. Many
> logging programs will make the conversion if you type the  appropriate
> letter.
>
> John, P40A last weekend
>
>
>
> To:   CQ-Contest Reflector  <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject:[CQ-Contest] When is speed not  speedy?
> From:    Charles Harpole  <hs0zcw at gmail.com>
> Date:    Mon, 27 May 2013 19:35:27  +0700
>
> When is high speed CW not speedy?
> Answer, when sending to me  well beyond my SENDING SPEED of 20 WPM.  I
> worked the whole contest at  20wpm sending and rcving (I can do that speed
> well and remember when it was  considered fast?), lots as H&P so the other
> station already knew my  speed because I called him at 20.
>
> He sends four numeral S.N. at 40wpm,  so I have to ask for THREE repeats,
> one for each of the last three  numerals.  If, like good ops of old, he just
> came down to 20, no  repeats and no delays and no cursing me under his
> breath.
>
> I guess  some programs are difficult to adjust speed or maybe "real"
> contesters are  just arrogant???   My radios have a speed knob right  on
> front.
>
> I bet that without RBN and code readers, the speed demons  would not be able
> to run like that.   BTW, by sending 5NN at  70wpm followed by the SN at 40
> keeps even the smartest code readers missing  the first few numbers as it
> re-times from 70 down to 40.
>
> I copied  the "cut numbers" as letters and plan to send in a log that way.
> When will  ops begin to use cut numbers inside their call signs too?... I
> used E2E,  and guess I could have signed EAE.
> Also, when my friend can win his  category for Asia and not know code,
> really, something is wrong with  contesting and respect for and satisfaction
> with human  achievement.
>
> Oh, have my smart phone tell me when the next contest is  over and how my
> new, 80wpm, fully automated station did in  scores.   73,