[CQ-Contest] on line scores

[Ron Notarius W3WN]

Mike,
 
While you may be right that this would be an aid to SOME operators, and will act to their benefit... not everyone may agree with you.
 
Why force it on people who don't wish to do it?
 
73


On 11/27/13, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:

Dave,

Actually, it could help contestants. N1MM could probe the online 
scoreboard for the same class you are and report back that you are XXXX 
points ahead or XXXX points behind. This could be used as a kick in the 
pants to get moving!

There is value in the scoreboard. It has been a slow sell.

I agree with your other points about online gaming and attempting to 
capture those elements if we have any hopes of converting young people 
to ham radio instead of the internet. An Xbox is far easier to hook up 
than a ham rig and contest worthy antennas.

Mike W0MU

On 11/26/2013 10:59 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
>
> I don't think it adds a thing to anyone not actually in the contest. 
> I can't imagine that more than a handful of non-contesters are going 
> to spend any time at all watching a set of numbers increment on their 
> screen.
>
> "Re-imagining contesting" is going to require something far more 
> interesting than simply making scores more visible. It's going to 
> require coming up with contest formats that more closely parallel 
> online gaming .... where the action a participant takes directly and 
> in real time impacts the actions and scores of competitors, and where 
> teams of players can collaboratively accomplish something in real time 
> that they couldn't individually. I've pondered this issue at great 
> length and haven't come up with anything yet that works for 
> radiosport, but the model is certainly there. There are more people 
> actively playing EACH of the major online games than there are U.S. 
> amateur radio licensees in total.
>
> Dave AB7E
>
>
>
> On 11/26/2013 9:20 AM, Steve Dyer wrote:
>> I am super excited about the idea of real-time posting AND scoring. 
>> It would be a tool to attract a lot of very positive attention to 
>> radio sport. A real game changer that would allow us to promote 
>> contesting as the modern, exciting activity it is to a *global* 
>> audience. An audience that expects to see results real-time, not 12 
>> months later. The contest sponsors need to wake up on this one and 
>> make it their #1 priority if they want to survive. They will get a 
>> lot more attention from advertisers and sponsors if they can break 
>> the current mold and re-imagine contesting. Print cycles for dead 
>> tree magazines should not be driving the agenda anymore.
>>
>> ...but it's got nothing to do with using Skimmer.
>>
>> 73,
>> Steve
>> W1SRD
>>> Soap Box- I want to commend the teams that took the time to post their
>>> scores
>>> on the cqcontest.ru site. Our friends in UA have dove an excellent 
>>> job in
>>> making the site easy to use and very accurate. On a different note I 
>>> will
>>> propose a change to the CQWW Rules to include some sort of rule that 
>>> if a
>>> station uses skimmer, packet or any other means of gathering 
>>> information
>>> they
>>> will be obligated to post their scores. Here is a classic example 
>>> given to
>>> me
>>> by KY4F.
>>>
>>> "You and your wife are huge Golf fans, and save, and finally buy 
>>> tickets
>>> to the Master's Golf Tournament (CQWW CW is much like the Master's). 
>>> In the
>>> process of your attendance, Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson decide 
>>> that they
>>> will not allow their scores to be listed on the leader boards and 
>>> that they
>>> will keep their score cards in their pocket and not allow any fans 
>>> or other
>>> competitor to see their score. Their score cards will not be 
>>> available until
>>> after every participant has finished the Tournament".
>>>
>>> I see no discernible difference in the above case, and our current 
>>> leaders
>>> in
>>> CQWW who refuse to participate in posting their scores online. It is 
>>> done in
>>> the Golf world to openly and frankly show what the score is at every
>>> stroke. It
>>> is a display of honesty and frankness and is a requirement for entry 
>>> in any
>>> golf
>>> tournament. I call upon all of the contesting community to request...no
>>> require... that all participants who use any method of information
>>> collection
>>> to post their scores!
>>>
>>> As the contesting community has adjusted to the requirement for logs 
>>> to be
>>> sent
>>> in and posted for all to see, it is now time to change this unnecessary
>>> behavior
>>> and openly post your score for all to see. Not posting your score 
>>> equals non
>>> entry in the contest.
>>>
>>> de Rick NQ4I
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