[CQ-Contest] CQ WW Scoring System needs revision?

[Aldewey at aol.com]

Martin;
 
You are right.  We looked primarily at the affect on the North America  
scores in ARRL DX because, of course, the world works North  American in that 
event.   I could see where those who participate  in CQWW could look at 
distance based scoring differntly.  Having said  that, there was nearly unanimous 
sentiment against the change for ARRL DX  at the time.
 
As for the logging software, you are right that this could be handled  
without changing the contest exchange by adding the grid square to the  
Cabrillo.  However, my assumption is that most contesters like to see their  score 
in real time during the contest.  I was thinking that adding a table  of 
distances between the zones (perhaps between the zone's  midpoints) to the 
logging programs would allow the logging software to  continue to compute the 
score in real time.  Admittingly, this would not be  as accurate as grid 
squares.  
 
73,
 
AL, K0AD
 
 
In a message dated 11/29/2013 11:29:55 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
lu5dx at lucg.com.ar writes:

Hi Al.  
The analysis you mention was done for the ARRL and it's sort of  domestic.
I've done the analysis in the past for CQ WW and it was really leveling  at 
a world wide basis.
Logging soft doesn't need to change at all.
All needed is for stations to state their grid locator in the cabrillo.  
Since, unless changes to the exchange are implemented (e.g. grid locator  
instead of RS(T) and CQ Zone in this case).
The log checking software run by organizers can easily do the rest.


73.


Martin LU5DX



On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:30 PM, <_Aldewey at aol.com_ 
(mailto:Aldewey at aol.com) > wrote:

Distance based scoring is something that was looked at in  detail for ARRL
DX contest a couple years ago.  While it had it's  advocates, there were a
couple main concerns that caused us to set it  aside for now.  The first was
that, depending on propagation, the  distance of a Contest QSO, does not
always  equate to the effort  needed to make that Q.  In many cases, on 10 
and 15
meters for  example, it is easier for someone Florida (for example) to make
a  contact with EU than it is the Caribbean.  The CAC actually  worked with
someone who re scored a couple past DX Contests using the  Distance Based
Scoring  and the results did not change all that  much.  Scores in the 
middle
part of  the U.S. rose and scores  on the east coasts went down and the 
order
of the top  ten changed a  little but not that much. Logging software would
have to  change of  course and we were concerned that there were many
contesters that  would not be comfortable with Grid Squares (which would 
give  the
most accurate  results).  Finally, the majority of the  contesters we 
talked to
were not in  favor or such a  change.

So, at least for now, the change was not  recommended.

73,

AL, K0AD




In a message  dated 11/29/2013 9:53:26 A.M. Central Standard Time,
_xdavid at cis-broadband.com_ (mailto:xdavid at cis-broadband.com)   writes:


The  topic of distance-based scoring comes up  consistently and many
contesters  seem to be in favor of it, but  somehow it never gains any
traction beyond  the Stew Perry.  I  wonder how many contesters are
actually AGAINST  distance-based  scoring for major contests, and what
their reasons would  be.

73,
Dave    AB7E
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