[CQ-Contest] Fwd: WRTC 18 Qualifying

Mon Dec 8 00:12:37 EST 2014

Dave,
Can you support your statement regarding the number of participants in 
RDXC, IARU and WPX with solid figures?
ARRL, that was part of 2014 WRTYC selection, for me is truly regional 
contest where unlike RDXC we can only work US and VE and therefore pretty 
dull from areas where propagation to NA last only few hours. In RDXC you can 
work any one anywhere wich does not  fit the discription of a regional 
contest but rather WW contest.
I have done ARRL couple of times from the very well equipped setup with 
multiple stacks to only make 500-600 QSOs in 48 hours while 3000 QSO in 24 
hours in RDXC is not uncommon from almost anywhere.

73, Igor UA9CDC

> Thanks for your thoughts.  As I noted WAE & RDXC were elevated ABOVE CQWPX
> and IARU.   RDXC & WAE certainly are enjoyed by many, they are fun
> contests, but they do not draw numbers of competitors with worldwide
> distribution equivalent to CQWPX & IARU.   Do we really need social
> engineering to push competitors into this or that contest and tell us what
> we "should" like?  The numbers demonstrate the rankings for what we *do*
> like as a group, rather than individual preferences.
>
> 73,  Dave K3ZJ
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Mats Strandberg <sm6lrr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> While I do argue with the 2018 organizers on the Assistsd/Non Assisted
>> issue, I fully support the decision to elevate WAE and RDXC to the same
>> level and CQWW and CQ WPX.
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> Simply becuase those two contests are globally considered much bigger 
>> than
>> they are in some continents..I do consider the CQ contests superb and 
>> they
>> will forever remain as two of my favourite Top Five contests. However,
>> without question, WAE and RDXC have in late years become even more fun to
>> participate in - and this not only to Europeans and Russians. They are 
>> now
>> by me and many others considered at same popularity level as the CQ
>> contests.
>>
>> RDXC is not a regional contest. It is a Worldwide contest where Russians
>> compete separately and the rest in a worldwide group. Working DX stations
>> is heavily stimulated by different points compared to working stations 
>> from
>> the same continent. The log checking and penalties system requires better
>> operator skills compared to some other contests where the contest echange
>> is more or less given. In RDXC, you nned to make sure you receive both 
>> the
>> other stations's callsign and exchange correctly. Moreover, you must
>> moderate your speed in a way that ensures that the other station also 
>> gets
>> your call and exchange correctly. If not, penalties for both of you. I 
>> know
>> this has caused some US frustration, but in my honest opinion, this 
>> develop
>> and stimulate true operator skills rather than skills of relying on the
>> database of the log program.
>>
>> WAE used to be a contest I did not pay attention to because of QTCs. They
>> bothered me because I did not feel I was control of them. It was a new 
>> way
>> of contesting and I was against and did not work WAE for many years. Then 
>> I
>> gradualy started working it with pleasure but always avoiding exhange of
>> the "troublesome" QTCs. One day I decided to open my eyes and challenge
>> myself to try echanging QTCs. From that day I got stuck!  The skill-set
>> needed to work WAE in full extent by exchanging QTCs is different from
>> normal contesting and the operator that masters that additional 
>> complexity
>> of WAE should definitely receive the same credits as the one that runs 
>> 300+
>> rates exchanging predictable zones in a CQWW.
>>
>> It is time for Americans to finally explore RDXC and WAE in a serious way
>> and with 1000 points value, be sure the bands will be boiling also in 
>> North
>> America those weekends. Run rates in RDXC are excellent for any station
>> participating - for sure not only for Russians.  Particpate and enjoy
>> instead of maintaining a prejudiced opinion about these two great events!
>>
>> 73 de Mats RM2D (SM6LRR)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-12-02 23:15 GMT+03:00 David Siddall <hhamwv at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> The difference in rules between WRTC2014 and WRTC2018 that struck me was
>>> that the prior emphasis on worldwide contests while accommodating the
>>> major
>>> regionals was abandoned.
>>>
>>> For WRTC2014, only CQWW received full 1000 value, with CQWPX at 950 and
>>> IARU at 900.  Major regional contests such as ARRL, Russian, WAE, AA 
>>> were
>>> 900 or less.  But for WRTC2018, instead of elevating the truly worldwide
>>> contests -- CQWPX & IARU -- the organizers instead emphasize European
>>> regional contests -- WAE and Russian -- both of which now get the top 
>>> 1000
>>> value.
>>>
>>> This is a step backward from promoting worldwide competition. It 
>>> elevates
>>> two Euro-centric competitions with less participation above the more
>>> popular worldwide contests as well as above the other major regionals 
>>> such
>>> as ARRL and AA.  Having lived in areas of the world where propagation
>>> doesn't support full time efforts in the regionals (whether or not one 
>>> can
>>> "work anyone" but for fewer points/mults), I appreciate the truly
>>> worldwide
>>> competitions that we have.  It says something that these rose to the top
>>> in
>>> popularity in the free marketplace of contests.
>>>
>>> Just my observation.
>>>
>>> 73,  Dave K3ZJ
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