[CQ-Contest] Comments / FAQs on WRTC2018 qualification rules

[Stan Stockton]

Milt,

If you can imagine, there are some who want to make a case for assisted to
be a detriment to a contester's score and those who believe that make their
case by saying that there are few if any instances where the top asssited
score is as good as the unassisted score.  In this case K4XS was responding
to someone who said he still could not find an instance where the top
assisted score was better than the unassisted score.  The fact that N2IC is
located in New Mexico and won the contest in the unassisted category speaks
of N2IC's operating ability but recognize that the big dogs on the East
Coast also wanted and competed for first place.  IF one of them on the East
Coast had made a few hundred thousand points more and had won the contest
instead of N2IC, the situation would remain the same.  The winner's score
in the assisted category was about 35% higher than the winning score for
unassisted.  It is nonsensical to believe that, properly used, the assisted
category will not enahnce scores in a dramatic fashion.  The only
expanation is that the majority of the best operators want to compete in
the unassisted category.

Stan, K5GO

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Milt -- N5IA <n5ia at zia-connection.com>
wrote:

> HMMMMMMM.  I wonder where K4XS is located?
>
> N2IC is located just 60.66 miles from AZ and Zone 3; the FAR, FAR west of
> Zone 4, and only 320.46 miles from the nearest waters of the Pacific Ocean
> (Gulf of California).
>
> If K4XS is in Florida, as his QRZ address says he is, then his station is
> ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED and FORTY miles to the east of N2IC, in the
> eastern southeastern portion of Zone 3.
>
> I find this 'comparison' to NOT be a good comparison.  YMMV.
>
> 73 de Milt, N5IA
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: K4XS via CQ-Contest
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 5:30 PM
>
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Comments / FAQs on WRTC2018 qualification rules
>
> Here's one for you:
>
> 2013 CQWW SSB
>
> K4XS SOAB Assisted:  10218476
> N2IC  SOAB:  7528827
>
> K4XS
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/8/2014 9:33:00 P.M. Coordinated Universal Time,
> vk4ts at outlook.com writes:
>
> "I still  find it odd in many years I cannot recall an assisted score
> beating
> unassisted in a major contest. (CQWW CQWPX) "
>
> Should say TOP  score assisted beating TOP score unassisted
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On  Behalf Of
> VK4TS Trent Sampson
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 December 2014 6:56  AM
> To: 'Paul O'Kane'; cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re:  [CQ-Contest] Comments / FAQs on WRTC2018 qualification rules
>
> Do you run  the risk of having participation certificates when there are
> too
> many  categories ?
>
> Does that really find the best contesters ?   Personally I don't like
> cluster
> use (old school) but if the rules to  qualify are such then maybe I need to
> re-address my stance if I want to  qualify.
>
> I still find it odd in many years I cannot recall an assisted  score
> beating
> unassisted in a major contest. (CQWW  CQWPX)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest  [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Paul  O'Kane
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 December 2014 5:21 AM
> To:  cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Comments / FAQs on  WRTC2018 qualification rules
>
> On 08/12/2014 16:40, Yuri  wrote:
>
>  Putting this usually endless and useless  assisted/unassisted and
>> single-op/multi-op discussion behind for  now,
>>
>
> If they're so useless, why then does CQ recognise the value of  having
> separate categories.  It's worth taking a look  at
> http://www.cqww.com/raw.htm?mode=cw - showing the calculated raw scores
> for
> CQWW CW 2014.
>
> There are 46 categories listed, and that's without  including the Classic
> and
> Rookie sub-categories. Is anyone  complaining?
>
> There are many reasons why CQWW is the world's most  popular contest, and
> the
> number of categories is one of them.
>
> This  "useless discussion" is unlikely to go away, and it would be helpful
> if
> the  WRTC2018 Committee members reconsidered their unanimous decision  to
> eliminate unassisted categories.
> They might all be  mistaken.
>
> 73,
> Paul  EI5DI
>
>
>
>
>
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