[CQ-Contest] WRTC QUALIFICATION

[JIM NEIGER]

if I was King of The World for one day, WRTC Qualification would be simple.

Any  two man team, anywhere, who wishes to compete, simply  "contributes" a 
finite sum (5000 Euros??  Pick a number) to the WRTC host sponsors and they 
have therefore qualified.  This would make the event self sustaining, i.e., 
pays for itself, and all the mysteries, pressure, nightmares and pains of 
which contests, small pistols vs big guns, disappear and as Ranko opines - 
more pleasure for all who truly wish to compete.
Highly skilled operators whose wallets may be thinner can perhaps get their 
country's radio societies to sponsor them??

vy 73

Jim Neiger  N6TJ

-----Original Message----- 
From: 4O3A
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 10:21 AM
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Need clarification from DL1MGB

Hello Chris,

I would like to make comment of rules once more time.

One decision, which disturb all of potential qualifiers is a given
qualification time - years 2015 and 2016.
Reason for this - as you explained to me is to give one year to teams
for their own practice and contesting together?

So, it has some sense, but it looks like clumsy decision and unbalance
between benefits and consequences.
Shorter qualification period will make a lot of troubles to all of us.
Needless to say that 12 contests is not a good measure. It is creating
two very unpleasant consequences:
1. Will favor big guns, as mid range stations and small pistols can not
make 12 top contest in such short time period
2. Will make to qualifiers a lot of pressure and nightmares, instead
pleasure, what should be our common goal?

If you just add year 2017, it won't change anything. Anyone who want to
do it in shorter possible period - can do it, and enjoy the rest of time
in playing with his team mate. Also, it does cost you nothing - nobody
will complain for sure. Simply - you can ask qualifiers and I am sure it
will be consensus.

If you make less qualification contests, less it is - more chances for
mid and small pistols. Isn't it something worth your attention? Also, be
sure that less qualifiers - more cometition in next qualification period
will be generated, and more qualifying surprise can happen. Isn't it
exciting if we could have rules putting big guns in a risk not to
qualify? You want competition - you have a chance to make real one.

Other comments I will not repeat.

73
Ranko


On 12/16/2014 6:21 PM, 4O3A wrote:
> Sinisa/David,
>
> If it is a true, than organizer missed the essence of WRTC.
>
> I still hope it could be a mistake, or unclear rules. Otherwise, it's 
> senseless and for some reason organizer wants to push all of us to compete 
> as assisted, qualifying for pure unassisted event as WRTC is.
>
> If it's mistake, super. If don't, I would like to hear from Chris 
> explanation for such decision?
>
> I really respect effort of DL guys for taking WRTC in Germany. Also I 
> fully respect their right to change the rules. But, some decisions are at 
> least strange.
>
> Again, I appeal to organizers to reconsider:
>
> 1. Number of contests for qualifying to maximum - 8 (eight). It will
>    give more chance to simpler stations and will make qualifications
>    more attractive. Does it has a sense if we, more or less, already
>    know who will be qualified, and it depends only on how large station
>    is? I belong to those who are privileged, but I do not like it at all.
> 2. To count contests in season 2017, giving to us enough of time, as we
>    all have family, business and private life.
> 3. Not to change numbers of teams in EU areas, and to keep it as it was
>    before. Needless to make more comments on how it is now in rules.
> 4. To make visible difference between Unassisted/Assisted, giving 0,9
>    to assisted, for example
> 5. To keep MS scores weightiness same as SOAB, as it was before. With
>    factor 0,9 we will push MS contesting by side in next two years. MS
>    is much more closer to WRTC principle, than SOAB Assisted. Thanks to
>    same weighting factor of SOAB and MS in previous qualification
>    period for WRTC in USA, we have had very attractive and intensive MS
>    fighting in EU and USA, and some continental records are increased
>    significantly.
>
> IMHO all five objections should be considered very seriously
> 73
> Ranko
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/16/2014 5:01 PM, David Siddall wrote:
>> LOL.  It was "clear" to me until I saw Sinisa's answer.  My answer is 
>> that,
>> for the stated scenario, assisted gets 1000 points and unassisted gets 
>> 714
>> points.   73,  Dave K3ZJ
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:14 AM, shristov <shristov at ptt.rs> wrote:
>>> 4O3A <4o3a at t-com.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> *Assisted scores are compared against Unassisted scores.
>>>> If someone make in CQWW as unassisted - 10 points
>>>> Another guy make in same contest as assisted - 14 points
>>>> What are final scores for WRTC qualification?
>>>
>>> Rules are very clear on this.
>>>
>>> Assuming top unassisted score of 10 points,
>>> unassisted guy gets 1000, and assisted guy gets 1400.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Sinisa  YT1NT
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