[CQ-Contest] Verticals and radials????

[Douglas Ruz]

Hi,

Thank you everybody for your ideas and information about verticals.

I have been reading many articles written bt Rudy, N6LF about Lazy-H. It is 
very interesting antenna.

somebody know about any multiband Lazy H design???

I have been modeling one for 40 and 80m using MMANA...I believe it is 
possible but i need some extra information.

73...Doug, CO8DM - Member of T48K Team
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt at mymts.net>
To: "Joe" <nss at mwt.net>; <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Verticals and radials????


> You can use a variety of methods of electrically lengthening physically
> short radials, from the coils Joe suggests to linear methods or just 
> running
> the full-size radials in the spaces available, zig-zagging or turning
> corners, etc.
> 73, kelly
> ve4xt
>
>
> On 5/3/14 11:32 AM, "Joe" <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>
>> Ok,,
>>
>> What you can do since it is elevated, yes they ( The Radials ) do need
>> to be resonant just like a dipole. And since you can not do full sized
>> ones. You can just like a dipole add loading coils to them to be allowed
>> to have them shorter and still be resonant.
>>
>> Remember being elevated you need them to be resonant for EVERY band of
>> operation also, and at least 4 per band.  Goona get complicated. I see
>> LOTS of interactions between them all, trying to get all of them
>> resonant on all those bands at the same time.  WOW.
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
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>> On 5/3/2014 10:19 AM, Douglas Ruz wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Let me give more information.
>>>
>>> I am trying to build the antenna published in Sep/1981 QST. It is 44
>>> ft high plus a capacitance hat.
>>> It is 5/8 on 30m, 1/2 on 40m, 1/4 on 80m and 1/8 on 160m (the vertical
>>> portion).
>>>
>>> In my case, IT IS NOT on ground. My backyard is about 15 by 15 ft, so
>>> i decide install the antenna in top of mast about 15 ft high, so,
>>> radials are elevated and running over the roof but only till 60 ft, so
>>> for 160m i need do "something" to get match.
>>>
>>> I think i must install independent radials for each band to get
>>> resonance cause i am using elevated resonant radials.
>>>
>>> Dave, K3ZJ and Bob WP2XX now you have more information.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> 73...Doug, CO8DM - Member of T48K Team
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Siddall" <hhamwv at gmail.com>
>>> To: "CQ-Contest" <cq-contest at contesting.com>; "Douglas Ruz"
>>> <co8dm at frcuba.co.cu>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Verticals and radials????
>>>
>>>
>>> If laid on or under ground, as many as possible and lengths don't
>>> matter. If elevated, need to be resonant, but assume this is not your
>>> case.
>>>
>>> For excellent info on radials, see:
>>> http://www.antennasbyn6lf.com
>>>
>>> 73, Dave K3ZJ
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 3, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Mirko S57AD <miroslav.sibilja at amis.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Don't worry about quarterwave radials. Just put as many short ones as
>>>> you
>>>> can afford!
>>>>
>>>> 73,  Mirko, S57AD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-05-03 5:04 GMT+02:00 Douglas Ruz <co8dm at frcuba.co.cu>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am building a vertical antenna for low bands, 160, 80, 40 and 30m.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately my property is small, so, i can not install quarter wave
>>>>> radials for 160m. 60ft is maximun length.
>>>>>
>>>>> If somebody has experience or some information about short radials
>>>>> systems
>>>>> or some article published please let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> 73...Doug, CO8DM - Member of T48K Team
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