[CQ-Contest] Move to disband MAR section in Canada (forcontesting)

[Larry]

There is, of course, the PAC section which covers a huge area and includes 
KH6, KH2, KH8, and KH0  among others along with some usually uninhabited 
areas (KH5, KH5K, KH7, KH3, KH9). In addition, all of those are separate 
DXCC countries and multiple zones.  The population of hams is probably not 
sufficient to warrant separate section organizations in each location.

73, Larry  W6NWS

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ron Notarius W3WN
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:03 AM
To: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca ; CQ-contest at contesting.com
Cc: ve5sf at rac.ca
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Move to disband MAR section in Canada 
(forcontesting)

So your argument is, for those contest that use ARRL/RAC sections for 
multipliers, you do NOT want to use the MAR section designation, but your 
provinces.

Because some contests use the individual provinces as multipliers, therefore 
all should, even though the Maritime section contains multiple provinces.

And one of the justifications for this is that the Ontario SECTION was split 
into 4 sections.

Sorry.  Your logic fails.  (IMHO)

Look, if you want to administratively split up the MAR section into separate 
sections for each province, and can convince the RAC of that, go for it. 
I'm all for it.  And that would give you those extra multipliers by default.

But otherwise, it just doesn't make sense.  How would you write the rule?
"4.  Multipliers.  ARRL or RAC Sections.
4a.  Except for the Maritime section.  They're special. "

Sorry.  Just can't see it.

73, ron w3wn

On 10/30/14, Mike & Coreen Smith VE9AA wrote:

The following is from Al, VA1MM but I 100% support him. See my own (VE9AA)
comments below his:



VA1MM:



A group of us contesters here in the "MAR" section feel the time has come to
announce the end of the MAR section in not only ARRL contests but all
contests. When our Department of Communications (now Industry Canada)
granted us separate prefixes for New Brunswick (VE9), Nova Scotia (VE1) and
Prince Edward Island (VY2), they recognized they we were distinct Provinces
with enough Amateur Radio operators to support a distinct call sign. And as
multipliers go, why wouldn't you want to have three new districts to work
when multiplied by six bands you have a substantial increase in your scores.



We have tried to weigh the pros and cons, the only con would be the contest
software not keeping up with the change or the operator not downloading the
newest version, but do we wait forever? Ontario (VE3) lead the way with
their divisional split, now it's time for the Maritimes to be recognized as
NS, NB and PEI







Thank-you, Al VA1MM/ VE1AWP (NS) Maritime Contest Club Member

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VE9AA, Mike says:



I've been moaning and groaning about this very thing for years and years.
SOME ARRL contests force us to send MAR (a very antiquated section) and some
permit us to send NB, NS and PEI (the provinces where we are)

Meanwhile, places like Ontario recently get 4 (count them) FOUR sections?
What the??? Do we not exist out here or what????

What if we were to combine RI, DE and ME? Who in W1 would go for that
section>? \RIDEME\



Prior to 1993, all NB, NS and PEI's were VE1's...*BUT*, News Flash> In 1993
us "VE1's" all got NEW distinct callsign prefixes

ie: NB=VE9, NS=VE1 and PEI=VY2...there are very few left that kept their
original VE1 calls in NB or PEI. (the NS guys got to keep their VE1's)...

We are distinct provinces, (have been for eons.) just as Maine, Rhode Island
and Delaware are. Maybe it made sense in the old days or whatever to have
us as one section as there are fewer hams here (and we were all VE1's) , but
I think you'll see as a fellow member of MCC also, that we are well
represented these days. As a point of interest, there are so many VE1's that
they also have a VA1 prefix to choose from. If it's based on activity (I
know it's not) there are certainly ARRL and RAC sections with less activity
than NB, NS and PEI.

Even in the RAC contests we send "NB,NS and PE" so saying you "follow RAC"
does not hold water, nor does it even make sense 2+ decades later.



I normally try to boycott most contests that force us to send "MAR" as a
silent protest. Probably nobody notices but there are others like me out
here.



Get with the times ARRL, CQP and a very select few others.



I don't know who's attention we need to get, but help us out. Rattle some
chains. Send emails to those you know,

"RAC" is not contest oriented. Why we have to follow that structure (but
only for some contests) is beyond me !?!?



Respectfully,



Mike VE9AA (proudly in NB)





Mike, Coreen & Corey

Keswick Ridge, NB



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