[CQ-Contest] CR3L Should Reconsider Submission Catagory

[Maarten van Rossum]

Jeff, why do you only comment on the part where Mike wrote: "They could
only be a sore looser if indeed they did loose, but they didn't"?
Yes, they would have lost the M/2 category, good point.
But what about the parts where Mike commented on respect, fairness, ethics
and fellowship?

I can't help it but the words "sore loser" keep coming to my mind when I
read posts like this.

73, Maarten PD2R

Op woensdag 9 december 2015 heeft Jeff Clarke <ku8e at bellsouth.net> het
volgende geschreven:

> They did lose in M2X. They then checked 3830 and switched to MM, which
> they won.
>
> Hope they enjoy their consolation prize.
>
> JeffOn Dec 9, 2015 12:09 AM, Michael Schulz <mschulz at creative-chaos.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > They could only be a sore looser if indeed they did loose, but they
> didn't :).
> >
> > But then again the words referred to below don't seem to apply
> universally.
> >
> > Respect - show it to those who competed and won obeying written rules.
> >
> > Fairness - first gather evidence, proof, and hear both sides of the
> story. Give the accused party time and opportunity to comment.
> >
> > Ethics - Throwing unproven accusations without any background
> information on the real situation at hand is not very ethical either (see
> Respect).
> >
> > Fellowship - Seems to be exhibited in a strong way by one side of the
> argument amongst each other but not as a whole group based on the
> discussion to date.
> >
> >
> > It always goes both ways.
> >
> > 73 Mike K5TRI
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Jeff Clarke
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 7:20 PM
> > To: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt at mymts.net <javascript:;>>
> > Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com <javascript:;>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CR3L Should Reconsider Submission Catagory
> >
> > Kelly, It's much more than just trying to gain an unfair advantage.
> Please reread the the first paragraph which contains words like "respect ,
> fairness, ethics and fellowship". But the last one is the most important
> word - " sore loser "
> >
> > JeffOn Dec 8, 2015 9:58 PM, Kelly Taylor <ve4xt at mymts.net <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > One could argue poor sportsmanship is being displayed by those
> kvetching about their win, especially absent any facts.
> > >
> > > A definition of poor sportsmanship in the link you provide is
> "…breaking the rules to gain an unfair advantage."
> > >
> > > What rules have been broken and what's the "unfair advantage" of a
> lowly M2 station beating a MM?
> > >
> > > 73 kelly
> > > ve4xt
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2015-12-08, at 6:33 PM, Jeff Clarke <ku8e at bellsouth.net
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportsmanship
> > > >
> > > > It's pretty obvious to me the definition of sportsmanship is
> different in Europe is different than it is here in the United States.
> > > >
> > > > Read the above link and tell me if CR3L is being a good sport?
> > > >
> > > > This email thread has been nothing about anyone breaking any rules
> because it's pretty apparent to me that the rules are broken if they allow
> this to happen.
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
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73, Maarten PD2R