[CQ-Contest] Category hopping, new angle

Mats Strandberg sm6lrr at gmail.com
Thu Dec 10 12:27:45 EST 2015

Of course Martin...

I just compare "similar" locations, where I consider PJ2 being a pretty
equal one to zone 33 or 35.

A M/S station in Zone 33 or 35 should have issues to beam a M2 or MM
station in Zone 8 or 9.

Remember Martin, I am myself from SM so pretty much familiar to challenges
of the north (or the south) when it comes to trying to win.

My reflection was just that CR3L as M2 logically should have no chance to
win MM in case MM efforts would have been of similar class as most years.
This year, MM was probably one of the easier categories to be in top...  No
offence to those who participated, but scores were quite low compared to
what normally can be expected from a station that theoretically can have 6
RUN stations 48 hours.

73 de Mats RM2D

2015-12-10 18:07 GMT+03:00 Martin , LU5DX <lu5dx at lucg.com.ar>:

> How can an M2 win over an MM. It is very simple actually. You only need to
> take the geographic factor into account. An MS in zone 33 or 35 can easily
> achieve a higher score than a full fledged MM in zone 13 for example. That
> is why to me, because of the nature of amateur radio contests, and also in
> most cases because of the rules of them, competition at a world level is
> sort of a fantasy.
> If you set up two stations that are exactly the same, you clone the crew
> of operators, one station in JA, the other in D4, there will be no way for
> the station in JA to win "the world".
> If competition was done at a zone level it would be a little more like a
> real competition and less like it has been so far.
> I really believe if it was done that way, more and more people would feel
> motivated to enter the contests and the ones who already enter would feel
> more motivated to do it more seriously.
> 73,
> Martín LU5DX
> El dic 10, 2015 10:58, "Mats Strandberg" <sm6lrr at gmail.com> escribió:
>> (Sorry, sent away my message before finished)
>> Yes, agree with Goran.
>> The main issue is that MM competition this year was weak and in case we
>> had
>> a few really competitive MM efforts, no chance would have been for CR3L to
>> lead the claimed scores.
>> The discussion is so much about "ethics" and "unsportsmanlike behaviour"
>> where as the focus should be:
>> Why on earth is it possible to win MM with a M2 or a M/S station?
>> Not knowing fully the setup of PJ2T, and all the issues they might have
>> had
>> with power failures and antennas that were not delivered on site,
>> normally,
>> PJT2 could easily have won the MM category and could easily have had 10
>> Million more points than any M/S or M2 station.
>> So, instead of debating this into some absurd dead end, focus on having
>> fun, on planning for a gigantic attack on the MM first position in 2016.
>> You can, and you should not, win if your effort in any category is World
>> Class. Obvisously PJ2T had issues and problems that prevented them from
>> winning this year. Let's face it and realize that during the period
>> 2016-2021 (at least), they will have far better chances than most other
>> stations. The location PJ2 is better than most locations in the world.
>> They
>> should logically have no issue to beat any M2 station in the world.
>> There are no moral winners - there is only one:  The station with most
>> points in each category. Whether you like it or not, that is the way CQWW
>> works. Nothing prevents anyone from posting a score on 3830. This is not
>> the official site for CQWW.
>> 73 de Mats RM2D (SM6LRR)
>> 2015-12-10 0:33 GMT+03:00 Bokverket <info at bokverket.com>:
>> > Re the big M/2 MM switch debate:  I noticed to my surprise when viewing
>> the
>> > raw scores that CN2AA who tops the M/S category with nearly 35
>> megapoints
>> > could presumably also have switched to M/M and won it easily over CR3L's
>> > approximately 32 megapoints.
>> >
>> > Which is the greater accomplishment, achieving an amazing score with
>> one,
>> > two or two+ transmitters? What a feat.
>> >
>> > All the best from the northern latitudes,
>> >
>> > Goran Fagerström
>> > SM0DRD
>> >
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