[CQ-Contest] The REAL way remotes are used

[Zack Widup]

I have used remote tuners via internet to listen to shortwave generally,
particularly spy numbers stations and some other oddities. I've never used
them for ham radio.

Sometimes the remote tuners I was trying to use were so busy I couldn't get
in to use them!

73, Zack W9SZ


On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
wrote:

> OK Charles...
>
> That's an interesting, if highly cynical, theory.
>
> You do have some proof that this is what was, and is, going on, isn't it?
>
> More importantly... how many hams... strike that.  How many active &
> competitive DX'ers and/or contesters are doing this?  A thousand?  A
> hundred?  A dozen?  One?
>
> Please cite sources.  Otherwise, with all due respect, this is all theory
> and speculation.
>
> Or to put it another way, it is certainly possible, and even probable,
> that this is going on to some degree.  Or will soon.  But before we break
> out the pitch forks, torches, tar & feathers, can we actually have some
> idea of what really is going on?
>
> 73, ron w3wn
>
> On 02/27/15, Charles Harpole wrote:
>
> -Early on, "x" years ago, stations could tap into remote receivers all
> around the world to hear better in specific geographic areas.
> Transmissions were loud enough but clear hearing was the problem-- fixed by
> using remote tune-able receivers. Practice was secret.
>
> -Lately, both transmit and receive were made remote. This has the obvious
> benefit of being closer, louder, hearing better, etc., especially if
> switching around to more than one remote station. You want Europe clear,
> dial up a station that produces that; you want VK, dial up a different
> station that wks gud into VK. Keep secret that you are using your call
> sign in places outside of your call sign entity/nation.
>
> -Now, RemoteHamRadio company takes away the secret and provides some
> control over practice described just above.
>
> -Immediately, as cited by Glenn, W0GJ, on K1N, somehow-- probably via a
> remote station that will be loud to K1N--a loud call gets the K1N op's
> attention, but then when the actual contact is made, the transmitted signal
> is weaker. The suggestion is that a remote station is used to get the
> partial or whole call sign acknowledged and then the actual contact goes on
> from a much less effective station location. This must be secret, too?
>
> Remotes have overturned old fashioned ham radio to the point, like the
> Internet, where anyone can appear to be anywhere with no trace of the
> facts. Seems national borders are obsolete in the new ham radio.
>
> --
> Charly, HS0ZCW
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