[CQ-Contest] If this were a contest............

Yan (XV4Y) xv4y at nature-mekong.com
Thu Jan 22 20:29:49 EST 2015


When in HS (or XV), if you call an expedition when they "CQ JA" or even "CQ EU", most of the expeditions operator will not consider it as "out of turn".
They know you are rare, they know it will never be "your turn".
Just call when it seems appropriate.

I don't remember which expedition it was, but once the operator heard a VK or ZL, so he sent "VK?" and worked that station.
I was listening to the RX frequency and noticed they were only a few VK/ZL.
The operator then sent "CQ VK/ZL", I did not call the first time, letting him work another VK.
Then the second time, I called him and got him in the log.

Of course it all depends on the dxpedition operator. After 15 minutes I have often enough information about his operating pattern to know if I have a chance or not.
Some very good operators are aware of who is in the crowd and how to manage the callers.
You know it's worth waiting a little bit more to work them.
In a few rare cases, after less than 5 minutes I knew I would not work this expedition and I prefer to entirely skip it instead of growing in anger.
My operating time is limited, I prefer to keep it for "quality time".
A last thing, I am lucky enough to work from home, and I very rarely call a dxpedition during a week-end or during their first days.

73 es GL,
Yannick DEVOS - XV4Y

Le 23 janv. 2015 à 08:11, Charles Harpole <hs0zcw at gmail.com> a écrit :

> Yes Yan, I do disagree with the current use of geographically limited calling.  I understand the money dimension... call the population centers because they pay.
> I do not want to purchase a contact, I just want a REASONABLE chance rather than hear hours, even days, of calling to areas I am not in.  If one wishes to listen to this selective calling for most of one's waking hours as is necessary to find the sliver of chance, then, like you, one may slip in somewhere.
> My point is that with the current selective calling, there is basically NEVER a call to an area that includes me.... so I am locked in to that DREADED CALLING OUT OF TURN.  I bet you Yan did that also for the contacts you note.
> So, if a DXpedition is being run for SOME hams, they should name it the EXCLUSIONpedition.   73, Charly in where?  oh Thailand, isn't that Taipei? 
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Yan (XV4Y) <xv4y at nature-mekong.com> wrote:
> Hi Charly,
> I got them on 15, 12 and 10m CW with 100w to a dipole.
> Never spend more than 15 minutes on each band.
> If I know it's not the right moment, I just go for something else.
> You should try to work them when propagation disfavor other places, even if it's not the best for you.
> For me, that means best time around 11am local time (sun between me and JA) or 3pm (around sunset in JA).
> They were S9+10dB, but some of their operators have different operating patterns than I am used to, and it takes me some time to understand their rhythm and where they listen.
> I worked many DXpedition this way, given there is propagation of course!
> I got FT4TA on two bands SSB, but this time I knew the operator pattern very well as it was F4BVK (great op).
> Very few operators do selective calls for SEA or Oceania, they just call JA.
> From the number of stations in the area, that makes sense too, you would not expect them making selective calls to Spain, UK or California only...
> 73,
> Yan.
> ---
> Yannick DEVOS - XV4Y
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> Le 22 janv. 2015 à 19:14, cq-contest-request at contesting.com a écrit :
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> > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 23:26:56 +0700
> > From: Charles Harpole <hs0zcw at gmail.com>
> > To: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] If this were a contest............
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> > If this were a contest.............
> >
> > EP6T has been loud here often, and I wked em both modes on 20, but may
> > never work them on any other bands due to their calling directionally to
> > NA, EU, or JA, which obviously leaves me totally out as it does all of the
> > rest of Asia, and the whole continent of Africa and VK.  Even if they would
> > finally call for India, or SEA or Manila-- more close places-- I would have
> > to listen to them working other places for hours on end for days to get to
> > hear their redirected CQs toward me that could come at any time and
> > definitely for a short time.   Am I disgusted, yep.
> >
> > --
> > Charly, HS0ZCW
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