Use 'em or lose 'em. 0 = T 1 = A 2 = U 3 = V 4 = 4 5 = E 6 = 6 7 = B (alternate = G) 8 = D 9 = N Remember: If cut numbers are outlawed, only outlaws will have cut numbers. 73, Ken, AB1J P. S. Personally, though, aside from 5NN and ENN, I think cut numbers are from the Devil's right hand.