[CQ-Contest] CQWW Proposed Rules

Mon Jun 1 02:03:45 EDT 2015

Mirko,

So what rules do you violate to "make it fun"?

73 de RM2D

On Sunday, May 31, 2015, Mirko S57AD <miroslav.sibilja at amis.net> wrote:

> "If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." (katherine Hepburn)
>
> 2015-05-26 0:28 GMT+02:00 Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd at charter.net
> <javascript:;>>:
>
> > The proposed rule says: "Stations competing for World and Continent
> awards
> > must provide actual frequencies for all contacts in the log."
> >
> > This rule will apply to about 50-75 stations on each mode.
> >
> > That leaves about 8000 entries on each mode that can keep doing what they
> > are doing.
> >
> > Option 2:  "All entries are encouraged to provide actual frequencies for
> > all
> > contacts in the log."
> >
> > The members of the CQWWCC are not stupid or uncaring.  We understand
> things
> > happen and not everyone is using the latest gear.  We still type in every
> > paper log that we receive.  We want people to participate in the contest,
> > have fun, and measure their skills by submitting a log.  Including
> > frequencies is helpful for the log checking, but that's it.  Help us by
> > including frequencies if you can.
> >
> > Fun!  It's that thing that happens when you use wireless to magically
> talk
> > to someone far away.
> >
> > Randy, K5ZD
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of
> > > John Laney
> > > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 9:37 PM
> > > To: cq-contest at contesting.com <javascript:;>
> > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Proposed Rules
> > >
> > > On 5/25/2015 2:23 PM, Joe wrote:
> > > > Not having a radio that tells my logger N1MM my frequencies I guess
> > > > I'm screwed?
> > > > Also just for the fun of it. I just made 2 bogus contacts using the
> > > > logger for next weekend and on qso I entered in the window 21032 and
> > > > the logger took it fine and even as usual thinks CW and then made
> > > > another one that I told it the freq is 21046,  this is what it spit
> > > > out in the cabrillo file.
> > > >
> > > > CREATED-BY: N1MM Logger+ 1.0.4905.0
> > > > QSO: 21000 CW 2015-05-22 0229 WB9SBD        599 0001   K9SB 599 0001
> > > > QSO: 21000 CW 2015-05-25 1816 WB9SBD        599 0002   KA9CHM 599
> 0008
> > > > END-OF-LOG:
> > > >
> > > > Now would having a radio that actually tells the program what freq
> I'm
> > > > on would it change the 21000 to the real freq?
> > > >
> > > > Joe WB9SBD
> > > >
> > > > On 5/25/2015 8:38 AM, w2lc at twcny.rr.com <javascript:;> wrote:
> > > >> CQWW rules changes
> > > >>
> > > >> The Good
> > > >> 1)    SO non-assisted
> > > >> 2)    classic category
> > > >> 3)    club circle change - I may be able to join a real contest club
> > > now
> > > >>
> > > >> The Bad
> > > >> 1)    exact frequencies - non-compliance means you are a check log.
> > > >> "A log without all required information may be reclassified to check
> > > >> log"
> > > >> 2)    no audio = DQ. "provide a complete recording of the contest
> > > >> operation audio as heard by the operator. Failure to do so may
> result
> > > >> in the entry being disqualified"
> > > >> 3) 5 day log deadline
> > > >>
> > > >> So before I even turn on my radio I am either a check log and
> > > >> possibly DQed, if I score well enough. With a serious effort I will
> > > >> be a check log at best.  Gee thanks
> > > >>
> > > >> Questions I wish Randy would answer
> > > >> 1) How many do not log exact frequencies? this can be derived from
> > > >> the logs
> > > >> 2) How many record the audio?   Randy does this anyone else?
> > > >> 3) How many miss the 5 day deadline?
> > > >>
> > > >> KE3X said "If you want to retain SOAB Unassisted and have results
> > > >> that mean something, then logging the frequency for each QSO and
> > > >> recording your effort is the price of admission".
> > > >>
> > > >> Be careful what you ask for.  If these rules are implemented and
> > > >> followed here is what may happen
> > > >>
> > > >> No exact frequencies = check log     exactly why I do not operate
> RDXC
> > > >> No audio recording = DQ
> > > >> Not everyone has the two capabilities mentioned above or wants to go
> > > >> through the trouble.
> > > >>
> > > >> These two rules relegate 99% to the status of participant since they
> > > >> are no longer considered a competitive entry (for not complying)
> > > >>
> > > >> Kind of like being a walker in the Boston marathon or a 5k
> > > >>
> > > >> I am actually training for a 5k, a lot of similarities to radio
> > > contests
> > > >>     various categories, wide variety of different people involved,
> > > >> various levels of competitiveness
> > > >>
> > > >> But unlike radio contesting,
> > > >> if I win my category I will not be a checklog because I used last
> > > >> year's sneakers And I don't have to supply a video of my run
> > > >>
> > > >> The exact frequency and recording rules are punishing the many due
> to
> > > >> the cheating of a few.  The contest committee may have won the
> battle
> > > >> but may be losing the war by declaring 99% to be ineligible before
> > > >> the contest even starts.
> > > >>
> > > >> So Dink, how about I fly out to Seattle and you and I go out to
> > > >> dinner on November 28 and reminisce about the good old times. That
> > > >> seafood place on the waterfront looks good
> > > >>
> > > >> 73 Scott W2LC
> > > >>
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> > > >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listiI fo/cq-contest I am
> > > >> mystified why some versions of N1MM seem to do what Joe says about
> > > >> changing the manually entered frequencies to 000 when the Cabrillo
> > > >> file is created.  I am looking at a Cabrillo log for this year's FL
> > > >> QSO Party for W4AN/M.  We had RFI problems and, after the first few
> > > >> minutes, we lost rig control.  Every time we chanaged bands, we
> > > >> entered the exact frequency.  We made only a few S&P QSOs.
> > > >> The Cabrillo file shows the frequency we enetered as our run
> > > >> frequency each time we changed bands. This was some version of N1MM
> > > >> and was not N1MM+.  If this is some improvement that has been made
> to
> > > >> N1MM+, someone should correct it back to what it did for us in FQP.
> > > >> 73, John, K4BAI.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
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