[CQ-Contest] CQWW CW check logs

Steve London n2icarrl at gmail.com
Mon May 4 10:11:55 EDT 2015


But in my example, the SM7XYZ log avoids all public scrutiny, since it 
is a checklog, and, therefore, not in the public logs. In all facets of 
life, people get away with a lot more mischief when their actions are 
hidden from the public !

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 05/04/2015 08:05 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:
> Steve
>
> This could be done also if he send a log (not checklog)
>
> W1EBI will have a NIL and SM7XYZ will not have any penalty for the QSO he
> deleted
>
> 73,
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] En nombre de Steve
> London
> Enviado el: domingo, 03 de mayo de 2015 10:40 p.m.
> Para: George Harlem
> CC: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Asunto: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW CW check logs
>
> Let me clarify with an example:
>
> SM7XYZ makes good QSO's with 10 stations, including, for example, W1EBI.
> The submitted logs of all 10 stations show a QSO with SM7XYZ.
>
> SM7XYZ does not like W1EBI. Before submitting his checklog, he removes the
> QSO with W1EBI from his log. The other 9 QSO's remain in SM7XYZ's checklog.
>
> A score is never calculated for SM7XYZ, since it was a checklog.
> However, SM7XYZ's checklog is included in the log checking process.
> Since the QSO with W1EBI is not in SM7XYZ's checklog, W1EBI gets a NIL
> against his log.
>
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
>
> On 05/03/2015 06:45 PM, George Harlem wrote:
>> Can that really happen?  I've never understood why there are so many NILs,
> including from fairly skilled ops. But if a checklog is not included in the
> competition, why would a QSO with that SM not simply be classified as a
> Unique?  Never heard of a "NICL"--not in checklog.
>>
>> George W1EBI
>>
>>   From George's iPhone
>>
>>> On May 3, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Steve London <n2icarrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 05/03/2015 08:01 AM, Randy Thompson K5ZD wrote:
>>>> The concept of CHECKLOG has existed for many years.  It is a log that is
> submitted to help the log checking process, but the entrant does not want
> their score to be included in the results.
>>>
>>> As I have learned, Checklogs can be used for nefarious purposes. In
> particular, there is a Swedish operator who works many people in the
> contest, but then deletes calls from his log if he does not think you are a
> good QSLer. This results in the deleted stations getting NIL's in their logs
> (and the associated penalties), while the Swedish stations' log remains
> completely hidden. Checklogs have not been included in the database of open
> logs.
>>>
>>> Frankly, I think Checklogs should be eliminated. Either send in your log
> for scoring, or don't send in a log at all.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Steve, N2IC
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