[CQ-Contest] TO7A debacle

Sun May 10 19:17:12 EDT 2015

Frank, I looked at this with some spot checks: OE3V, LA5HE (Rag!), 
SP3CQP, etc.  Your team did not work any of these stations; nor did 
K3LR; nor did DL1A; nor did CN2AA - on any band...

Looking a the log of ON4TO, the op made his last QSO at 2310z on 11/29 
and it looks like he went to bed.  He resumed operating at 0608z on 11/30.

Odd indeed.

73 Rich NN3W

On 5/10/2015 5:14 PM, donovanf at starpower.net wrote:
> Juan,
>
>
> You've discovered an extremely unusual pattern in the TO7A public log
> that's very difficult to rationalize.
>
>
> Three of the 160 meter European QSOs in TO7A's log have public logs:
> ON4TO, UT5URW and R6KY. There is no TO7A 160M QSO in
> any of these logs.
>
>
> There's a remarkable run of 160 meter European QSOs from 0437-0608Z
> Sunday in the TO7A's log but a lack of any of the very active 160 meter
> European calls in the TO7A log.. It would be interesting to try to find the
> European calls in the 0437-0608Z TO7A 160 meter log and also the
> PY1NP and LU2YE calls in the 160 meters in the logs of other very active
> 160 meter stations such as CN2AA, 9K2HN, HK1NA and PJ2T.
>
>
> I suspect only a tiny fraction of the European calls in that 0437-0608Z 160
> meter run appear in any 160 meter log and PY1NP and LU2YE
> probably won't be found either.
>
>
> This unusual pattern may also appear elsewhere in the TO7A log...
>
>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Juan EA5RS" <ea5rs at ono.com>
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 6:08:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] TO7A debacle
>
> Interesting debate, but I am afraid there has been some misleading
> info/assumption on the reason for TO7A's DQ.
>
> I have not studied the log in detail, but if you are curious enough, have a
> look at TO7A's 160m log:
> Not one single station with a public log in zones 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 20 or
> 33 claims working TO7A on 160
> Yet TO7A's log claims having worked 29 stations in these zones.
> Most of these 29 QSOs are unique calls at least on 160, most do not have a
> public log, and if they have a public log, the 160m QSO with TO7A is not
> there
>
> Maybe this has something to do with why he has been DQd
> I have performed a similar scrutiny with some of TO7A's competitors logs but
> I haven't found a similar situation
>
> Just public logs data (5,8 million records) and some database code
>
> Juan
> EA5RS
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] En nombre de Stan
> Stockton
> Enviado el: domingo, 10 de mayo de 2015 1:09
> Para: W0MU Mike Fatchett
> CC: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Asunto: Re: [CQ-Contest] TO7A debacle
>
>> On 5/9/2015 12:11 PM, Lloyd Cabral wrote:
>>
>>
>> After following this thread, my only wish is that Randy would have
> inquired here for another e-mail address
>> for Dim, or another source of contact with him BEFORE bringing this issue
> mainstream. Accusations as
>> serious as this should first be handled privately with the accused given a
> fair chance to defend himself.
>> Stan K5GO hit the nail on the head with his previous post. IMHO, taking
> Dim's case public right off seemed
>> premature, unprofessional and totally unnecessary.
>> Lloyd KH6LC
>> On May 9, 2015, at 3:15 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:
>>
>> The guy got caught red handed and you people want to hang those that
> caught him.
>
> Mike,
>
> I wish you had told everyone you had information showing or even saying he
> got caught red handed a long time ago. Do you have some information that
> says he was caught "red handed"?
>
> Everyone else is reading what has been written and the email posted on the
> reflector says that the committee had a "belief" that he was using
> assistance and substantiated the fact that it was a "belief" by asking him
> to provide a recording (not required in the rules) in order to further
> evaluate the situation. However, even in that email, the bottom line and
> last sentence, after what would appear to be an attempt to communicate some
> hope that there would be further evaluation, said emphatically and in no
> uncertain terms that he was disqualified for 2014 but welcome to enter in
> 2015.
>
> I am not making any assumption this process is as cut and dried as you would
> like it to be.
>
> 73...Stan, K5GO
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