[CQ-Contest] CQWW Proposed Rules

[John Laney]

On 5/25/2015 2:23 PM, Joe wrote:
> Not having a radio that tells my logger N1MM my frequencies I guess 
> I'm screwed?
> Also just for the fun of it. I just made 2 bogus contacts using the 
> logger for next weekend and on qso I entered in the window 21032 and 
> the logger took it fine and even as usual thinks CW and then made 
> another one that I told it the freq is 21046,  this is what it spit 
> out in the cabrillo file.
>
> CREATED-BY: N1MM Logger+ 1.0.4905.0
> QSO: 21000 CW 2015-05-22 0229 WB9SBD        599 0001   K9SB 599 0001
> QSO: 21000 CW 2015-05-25 1816 WB9SBD        599 0002   KA9CHM 599 0008
> END-OF-LOG:
>
> Now would having a radio that actually tells the program what freq I'm 
> on would it change the 21000 to the real freq?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
>
> On 5/25/2015 8:38 AM, w2lc at twcny.rr.com wrote:
>> CQWW rules changes
>>
>> The Good
>> 1)    SO non-assisted
>> 2)    classic category
>> 3)    club circle change - I may be able to join a real contest club now
>>
>> The Bad
>> 1)    exact frequencies - non-compliance means you are a check log. 
>> "A log without all required information may be reclassified to check 
>> log"
>> 2)    no audio = DQ. "provide a complete recording of the contest 
>> operation audio as heard by the operator. Failure to do so may result 
>> in the entry being disqualified"
>> 3) 5 day log deadline
>>
>> So before I even turn on my radio I am either a check log and 
>> possibly DQed, if I score well enough. With a serious effort I will 
>> be a check log at best.  Gee thanks
>>
>> Questions I wish Randy would answer
>> 1) How many do not log exact frequencies? this can be derived from 
>> the logs
>> 2) How many record the audio?   Randy does this anyone else?
>> 3) How many miss the 5 day deadline?
>>
>> KE3X said "If you want to retain SOAB Unassisted and have results 
>> that mean something, then logging the frequency for each QSO and 
>> recording your effort is the price of admission".
>>
>> Be careful what you ask for.  If these rules are implemented and 
>> followed here is what may happen
>>
>> No exact frequencies = check log     exactly why I do not operate RDXC
>> No audio recording = DQ
>> Not everyone has the two capabilities mentioned above or wants to go 
>> through the trouble.
>>
>> These two rules relegate 99% to the status of participant since they 
>> are no longer considered a competitive entry (for not complying)
>>
>> Kind of like being a walker in the Boston marathon or a 5k
>>
>> I am actually training for a 5k, a lot of similarities to radio contests
>>     various categories, wide variety of different people involved, 
>> various levels of competitiveness
>>
>> But unlike radio contesting,
>> if I win my category I will not be a checklog because I used last 
>> year's sneakers
>> And I don't have to supply a video of my run
>>
>> The exact frequency and recording rules are punishing the many due to 
>> the cheating of a few.  The contest committee may have won the battle 
>> but may be losing the war by declaring 99% to be ineligible before 
>> the contest even starts.
>>
>> So Dink, how about I fly out to Seattle and you and I go out to 
>> dinner on November 28 and reminisce about the good old times. That 
>> seafood place on the waterfront looks good
>>
>> 73 Scott W2LC
>>
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>> I am mystified why some versions of N1MM seem to do what Joe says 
>> about changing the manually entered frequencies to 000 when the 
>> Cabrillo file is created.  I am looking at a Cabrillo log for this 
>> year's FL QSO Party for W4AN/M.  We had RFI problems and, after the 
>> first few minutes, we lost rig control.  Every time we chanaged 
>> bands, we entered the exact frequency.  We made only a few S&P QSOs.  
>> The Cabrillo file shows the frequency we enetered as our run 
>> frequency each time we changed bands. This was some version of N1MM 
>> and was not N1MM+.  If this is some improvement that has been made to 
>> N1MM+, someone should correct it back to what it did for us in FQP.  
>> 73, John, K4BAI.
>>
>>
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