[CQ-Contest] Why some Caribean Islands compete as South America at CQWW

[Helmut Mueller]

Hi @ ALL.

Why does P4, PJ2 and PJ4 count to south America? Well a look at a map could help to solve this mystery. :)

Yes, it might be an advantage operating from there, but maybe not. 
It is a big effort to build huge superstations, but should it be sanctioned? No, big effort make things change.
It is also a big effort to create and maintain stations on Caribbean islands. Should it be sanctioned? NO! And again ... this helped winning for a while.

Look at 8P5A (Tom W2SC) ... he belongs to North America, and has a tactical points disadvantage over SA Islands and he wins it anyway ... year after year!!! To me Tom is the best operator I know in the world and he is in the perfect location. Want to sanction this?    

Conclusion:  Now we are building TOP super stations on tactical well selected locations, Morocco for example. CN2R, CN3A and lately CN2AA. CN2AA has more than double points to claimed place #2. Should we sanction that? I think NO. Thats the normal evolution. 

1985 you could will M/M with 21.9 M Points ... 2015 you need 75 MIO!

Do I have a "neutral" view on that? NO .... I operated 7x from P4/PJ2/PJ4. And 10x from CT3. I can tell you it is not easy keeping the station on CT3 up and running and competitive. We are playing with old worn out amps and beaten up TH6 Beams. Its just a question of time someone wants to build a superstation there!   

73

Helmut



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] Im Auftrag von Fernando PY2LED
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. November 2015 23:37
An: john at kk9a.com
Cc: CQ-Contest at contesting.com
Betreff: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why some Caribean Islands compete as South America at CQWW

Hello John and all colleagues, good evening!

Many thanks for all replies until now. 
I agree with you. Depending on the equipments, tower, antennas, operarors skills etc, independent where you are, results can be better or not. Always we can speak about advantages or disavantages.  But the main question remains:

Why caribean islands belongs to South America and not to Central America or Ocean Islands category or another division? 

Same happens with other locations in Europe, Asia, Africa. 

The amateur world map should better splitted in continents and islands to allow better chances to compete. It's a big race and some Entities will be the pole position only because their local. 

I known this issue is old, discussed since a long time at Contest Board but until now there is no change. In other areas we can see a lot of changes, new rules etc......that sounds excelent.

I Would like to see this issue under discussion, or in questions being part of a Survey for the Contest Comunity like others we are receiving and answering with pleasure.

Thanks again and hope to listen more from the big guns.

CHEERS AND 73's

> Fernando Cordoba | PY2LED | PX2B
> Sao Caetano do Sul | SP | Brasil
> GG66rj
> py2led at fuertesind.com.br
> www.altodaserradx.com.br


> Em 5 de nov de 2015, às 10:11, "john at kk9a.com" <john at kk9a.com> escreveu:
> 
> I have operated from Aruba many times and I recall only once being the 
> only active station in a major contest. There are advantages and 
> disadvantages to any location. For most of us it will always seem like 
> there are better places to operate from however we do the best that we 
> can with what we have available.
> 
> John KK9A - P40A
> 
> 
> To:    CQ-Contest at Contesting.COM
> Subject:    [CQ-Contest] Why some Caribean Islands compete as South America
> at    CQWW and other contests
> From:    Fernando PY2LED <py2led at fuertesind.com.br>
> Date:    Wed, 4 Nov 2015 21:21:13 -0200
> 
> Hello Dear Contesters, good day!
> 
> I was analyzing results from CQWW, CQWPX and in some categories we can 
> see some nice records made by stations located in the Caribean 
> Islands. Some of this islands counts like South America.
> 
> It is extremelly difficult or impossible to beat their scores from 
> South of Brazil, Argentina, Uruguai, Paraguai and other south 
> countries due to the big distances to the main countries lime USA and 
> some European countries. Also during the main contests, we have only 
> one station (one multiplier) in some of this islands like Bonaire, 
> Aruba etc and everybody will try the qso.
> 
> I would like to understand if's there an explanation or criteria why 
> they are located in South America for this contests. When we go to 
> some Geography books, some autors gives reason why they don't include 
> such islands at South America and they do like Caribean islands.
> 
> Maybe this example applies to other parts of the world.  Why not to 
> create an Islands Category or Central America or so?
> 
> Would like to share and listen opinions about this issue.
> 
> Many thanks and best 73's
> 
> 
>> Fernando Cordoba | PY2LED | PX2B
>> Sao Caetano do Sul | SP | Brasil
>> GG66rj
>> py2led at fuertesind.com.br
>> www.altodaserradx.com.br
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