[CQ-Contest] paper QSL
Charles Cassidy
ncphotos at gmail.com
Tue Nov 24 13:07:57 EST 2015
Hi Tim,
When you get time check out my web site. I have a few different paper QSL
options.
Thanks,
Charles, W2CSI,
W2CSI.com
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> 1. Paper QSL Sources (Timothy A. Holmes)
> 2. Re: Why SuperCheckPartial makes you assisted (Radio K0HB)
> 3. Re: Why SuperCheckPartial makes you assisted (Chuck Dietz)
> 4. Re: Contesting and Health (Richard F DiDonna NN3W)
> 5. Re: Reducing Pain in Ears and Bum while Contesting (Chuck Dietz)
> 6. Re: Why SuperCheckPartial makes you assisted
> (Richard F DiDonna NN3W)
> 7. Re: Contesting and Health (Chuck Dietz)
> 8. Re: Why SuperCheckPartial makes you assisted (kd4d at comcast.net)
> 9. Re: Why SuperCheckPartial makes you assisted (Ron Notarius W3WN)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 08:49:10 -0500
> From: "Timothy A. Holmes" <taholmes160 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Paper QSL Sources
> Message-ID: <56546AD6.8040506 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Hi Folks:
>
> I have a huge batch of qso's that I need to qsl for -- ive never done it
> at any kind of consistent rate in the past and am wondering who you all
> suggest for a QSL supplier -- Ive got over 3000 QSO's that I need to get
> cards out for (yes, I am also planning to do electronic but cant use
> LOTW, so I need paper to confirm for ARRL awards)
>
> A lot of them will be going Buro but others I would really like to go
> direct, as well as all of my stateside cards which have to go direct as
> I understand it.
>
> Thanks
>
> TIM
> W8TAH
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 06:42:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Radio K0HB" <kzerohb at gmail.com>
> To: "W0MU" <w0mu at w0mu.com>
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why SuperCheckPartial makes you assisted
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>
> Good point.
>
>
>
> Since that information was developed by me personally from my previous
> contacts and is a product of my own effort, the case?could made that it
> isn't assistance.
>
>
>
>
>
> __73, de Hans, K0HB
>
> "Just a Boy and His Radio"?
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, Nov 23, 2015 at 22:19, W0MU <w0mu at w0mu.com>, wrote:
>
> ?
>
> What if I use a list of my past contests? Is that assisted in your minds?
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 08:54:32 -0600
> From: Chuck Dietz <w5prchuck at gmail.com>
> To: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
> Cc: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why SuperCheckPartial makes you assisted
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> "Outside Assistance?"
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> > A key point, which actually makes the discussion moot...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> > W0MU
> > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 11:02 PM
> > To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why SuperCheckPartial makes you assisted
> >
> > < snip >
> >
> > but the Contest sponsors determine what assisted and unassisted are.
> >
> > < snip >
> >
> > W0MU
> > -- 30 --
> >
> > The words assisted & unassisted -- the dictionary definitions that is --
> > and
> > the contest classifications that they are used as the labels of are not
> > necessarily the same.
> >
> > The meanings of the categories/classifications, when used, may differ
> from
> > contest to contest.
> >
> > So more often than not, the discussions end up without resolution because
> > the various participants aren't actually discussing the same thing.
> >
> > I really wish a different word than "assisted" had been chosen when the
> > category was being named. Some of this heartburn might have been
> avoided.
> >
> > 73, ron w3wn
> >
> >
> > ---
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:57:59 -0500
> From: Richard F DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w at verizon.net>
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesting and Health
> Message-ID: <56547AF7.9000007 at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> I think ham radio as a whole has health issues - as does America.
> However, if there is an exception, I'd say that contesters are often the
> exception. Perhaps its the Type "A" personality found in a lot of
> contesters, but I rarely see a "mobility scooter" at the Crowne Plaza at
> Dayton.
>
> That being said, its never ever too late to do something about it. I
> made the decision that enough is enough with the snacking and eating
> (most of which is related to work....). Since then I've started running
> (haven't done that since I was a Freshman in high school).
>
> Two months passed, 15 pounds lost, and first 10K ever was run a couple
> weeks ago. Already have to go buy new clothes and I feel a hell of a
> lot better than I did before summer.
>
> 73 Rich NN3W
>
> On 11/24/2015 1:28 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
> > On Sun,11/22/2015 7:29 AM, Peter Chamalian wrote:
> >> As one who is intimately familiar with heart trouble (2 mild heart
> >> attacks,
> >> 9 stents and triple bypass) I urge all contesters to pay attention to
> >> their
> >> health.
> >
> > So sad to lose a great operator like Rich. But for the Grace of God I
> > might have joined him -- a few months ago, my primary care doc heard a
> > murmur on my heart, and sent me for a check up. Long story short, A
> > few hours ago, my wife drove me home from the hospital with a new
> > Aortic Valve and a bypassed artery. Pete and I were lucky -- this time
> > -- but sadly, Rich was not. RIP - OM.
> >
> > As a group, we've become a bunch of old fat guys who don't get enough
> > exercise, and far too many of us can be seen being wheeled around the
> > aisles of hamfests on "mobility scooters." Perhaps we should be saving
> > them to carry our coffins.
> >
> > 73, Jim K9YC
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest at contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:02:26 -0600
> From: Chuck Dietz <w5prchuck at gmail.com>
> To: k9yc at arrl.net
> Cc: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reducing Pain in Ears and Bum while
> Contesting
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> The CM500 needs batteries? Or can it be powered from a rig like the Icom?
>
> Chuck W5PR
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Jim Brown <k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon,11/23/2015 7:44 AM, Richard Zalewski wrote:
> >
> >> The Heil was a ear killer for me....switched to the Yamaha CM-500 and
> >> found
> >> real comfort.
> >>
> >
> > I'm retired from a career in pro audio, so own at least a half dozen
> > different headphones. My favorites for CW and RTTY are CM500 and Sony
> > MDR-7506 -- I find them equally comfortable, they sound equally good. For
> > SSB, it's the CM500. It's not uncommon for me to put in 30+ hours in a
> long
> > contest.
> >
> > For at least ten years, I've slept through the night wearing a pair of
> > MDR-7506 listening to jazz.
> >
> > 73, Jim K9YC
> >
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>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 10:04:35 -0500
> From: Richard F DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w at verizon.net>
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why SuperCheckPartial makes you assisted
> Message-ID: <56547C83.30603 at verizon.net>
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>
> So by this measure, the following would make you assisted.
>
> Watching the weather during the contest - because the forecast wasn't
> prepared by you.
>
> Looking at your list of xxxxHQ stations in the IARU test.
>
> Looking at NG3K's list of DXpeditions that you printed out before the
> contest.
>
> Hell, if we're going to go down this road, then assistance means that
> N1MM and Wintest is having EVERYONE be assisted by populating the signal
> report field.
>
> As others mentioned, the contest sponsors have defined assistance as
> information that gives you specific information regarding a frequency
> and the callsign of the individual on that frequency.
>
> Having a list of calls is -not- providing assistance. You still have to
> copy the call correctly and you still have to copy the exchange correctly.
>
> Just because you heard NN3 and you're provided with a list of calls
> doesn't mean that its NN3W, NN3Q, NN2W, NN3RP, NN3V or NN3L. You have
> to decide (correctly) based upon information what is correct.
>
> 73 Rich NN3W
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/24/2015 1:49 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Disagree, Paul.
> >
> > I too think SCP is inappropriate for Unassisted operation, because SCP
> > uses information ... compiled by others ... gathered outside of
> > the actual event. Lots of folks will use the argument that you still
> > need
> > to copy the callsign to avoid errors and make sure you got it right, but
> > the fact is that you could rely almost exclusively on SCP to fill in the
> > last half of every callsign and still do quite well in scoring. That to
> > me is assistance.
> >
> > Doesn't matter, though ... the rules are what the contest sponsors say
> > they are until they decide differently.
> >
> > 73,
> > Dave AB7E
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/23/2015 5:01 PM, Paul O'Kane wrote:
> >> On 23/11/2015 21:14, Stu Phillips wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >>> Using Super Check Partial makes you assisted category in a contest.
> >>
> >> No - all relevant technology assists. In essence, what distinguishes
> >> "assisted" from "unassisted" is that you connect to external networks,
> >> typically the cluster or RBN, to improve your score - benefiting from
> >> real-time spotting information from other operators or from remote
> >> receivers.
> >>
> >> When you're not connected (and not using CW skimmer), you're unassisted.
> >>
> >> Rather than Assisted and Unassisted, the terms should be Connected and
> >> Unconnected. Seems obvious to me :-)
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >>> For me going forward, I will submit my entries in the assisted
> >>> category whenever I use Super Check Partial ? its clear that it helps
> >>> with accuracy and likely rate.
> >>
> >> Here are a few other things that help with accuracy and rate -
> >>
> >> Contest Loggers
> >> CW and voice keyers.
> >> CTY.DAT for callsign identification.
> >> Automatic antenna switching.
> >> Filters
> >> Panadaptors
> >> Amps
> >> Antennas
> >>
> >> The list is endless - all relevant technology assists, and
> >> SCP is no different (and very useful). After all, it's
> >> another reference file, freely available to all before the
> >> contest and with no external updates during the contest.
> >>
> >> If anyone feels obliged to abstain from using SCP, wouldn't
> >> the same argument apply to using CTY.DAT (from AD1C)?
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Paul EI5DI
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:06:26 -0600
> From: Chuck Dietz <w5prchuck at gmail.com>
> To: Richard F DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w at verizon.net>
> Cc: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesting and Health
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Wow! That's great Rich. I am guessing you are a comparative "youngster"
> in the contest group. Even fast walking is probably very helpful if you
> can't run.
>
> Chuck W5PR
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Richard F DiDonna NN3W <
> richnn3w at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > I think ham radio as a whole has health issues - as does America.
> However,
> > if there is an exception, I'd say that contesters are often the
> exception.
> > Perhaps its the Type "A" personality found in a lot of contesters, but I
> > rarely see a "mobility scooter" at the Crowne Plaza at Dayton.
> >
> > That being said, its never ever too late to do something about it. I made
> > the decision that enough is enough with the snacking and eating (most of
> > which is related to work....). Since then I've started running (haven't
> > done that since I was a Freshman in high school).
> >
> > Two months passed, 15 pounds lost, and first 10K ever was run a couple
> > weeks ago. Already have to go buy new clothes and I feel a hell of a lot
> > better than I did before summer.
> >
> > 73 Rich NN3W
> >
> >
> > On 11/24/2015 1:28 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun,11/22/2015 7:29 AM, Peter Chamalian wrote:
> >>
> >>> As one who is intimately familiar with heart trouble (2 mild heart
> >>> attacks,
> >>> 9 stents and triple bypass) I urge all contesters to pay attention to
> >>> their
> >>> health.
> >>>
> >>
> >> So sad to lose a great operator like Rich. But for the Grace of God I
> >> might have joined him -- a few months ago, my primary care doc heard a
> >> murmur on my heart, and sent me for a check up. Long story short, A few
> >> hours ago, my wife drove me home from the hospital with a new Aortic
> Valve
> >> and a bypassed artery. Pete and I were lucky -- this time -- but sadly,
> >> Rich was not. RIP - OM.
> >>
> >> As a group, we've become a bunch of old fat guys who don't get enough
> >> exercise, and far too many of us can be seen being wheeled around the
> >> aisles of hamfests on "mobility scooters." Perhaps we should be saving
> them
> >> to carry our coffins.
> >>
> >> 73, Jim K9YC
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>
> >>
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> >
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 15:15:54 +0000 (UTC)
> From: kd4d at comcast.net
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why SuperCheckPartial makes you assisted
> Message-ID:
> <1234185231.1262598.1448378154188.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hi Ward:
>
> It is NOT just what crosses the station boundary or local skimmers
> (multi-channel decoders) would be permitted. That would remove the major
> distinction between the classes (IMHO). I enjoy the unassisted categories
> and believe these should be retained and remain very similar to the way
> that they are defined now. An essential part of that type of operation is
> finding QSOs and multipliers by having the operator searh the bands....
>
> I think contests that do not now distinguish between unlimited/assisted
> categories (like WAE) will ultimately return to or create that distinction
> as the technology used in the unlimited/assisted categories continues to
> advance. Maybe the names change to something like "Classic/Restricted" and
> "Unlimited".
>
> The CQ 160 is permitting (some) remote receivers now (fortunately, only in
> the Unlimited/Assisted category :-) ) - a QSO now doesn't even require an
> RF signal to be exchanged between two stations.
>
> There is no end in sight to the advances in technology/connectivity as
> both evolve and the changes that will occur in the unlimited categories.
> The next "frontier" may be automation - of the second station in an SO2R
> operation (and additional stations in multi-operator categories) and, I
> expect sooner rather than later, totally automated operation in CW and
> digital contests.
>
> 73,
>
> Mark, KD4D
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ward Silver" <hwardsil at gmail.com>
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 8:43:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why SuperCheckPartial makes you assisted
>
> Paul is correct. Read the rules of the category. The word "assisted"
> leads to a multi-annual festival of confusion about whether assistance
> makes you Assisted. It does not.
>
> The problem is in the choice of name of the category and that is why the
> ARRL changed the name of the category from Assisted to Unlimited. The
> determining factor is what information is allowed to cross the boundary
> of the station and in what form. It has nothing to do with whether you
> use databases or other means of selecting call signs.
>
> 73, Ward N0AX
>
> On 11/23/2015 11:18 PM, cq-contest-request at contesting.com wrote:
> >> Using Super Check Partial makes you assisted category in a contest.
> > No - all relevant technology assists. In essence, what distinguishes
> > "assisted" from "unassisted" is that you connect to external networks,
> > typically the cluster or RBN, to improve your score - benefiting from
> > real-time spotting information from other operators or from remote
> > receivers.
> >
> > When you're not connected (and not using CW skimmer), you're unassisted.
> >
> > Rather than Assisted and Unassisted, the terms should be Connected and
> > Unconnected. Seems obvious to me:-)
> > Paul EI5DI
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:20:12 -0600 (CST)
> From: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why SuperCheckPartial makes you assisted
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>
> Does "outside assistance" include or exclude one's spouse (or significant
> other, parental unit, or total stranger making a delivery from the corner
> deli) from providing the operator with snacks, a sandwich, or a drink?
>
>
> Considering how some of the debates over "assistance" have gone over the
> years, the question isn't as ludicrous (at least to some) as it ought to
> be.
>
>
> 73, ron w3wn
>
>
> On 11/24/15, Chuck Dietz wrote:
>
>
> "Outside Assistance?"
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> A key point, which actually makes the discussion moot...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>
> W0MU
>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 11:02 PM
>
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why SuperCheckPartial makes you assisted
>
>
>
> < snip >
>
>
>
> but the Contest sponsors determine what assisted and unassisted are.
>
>
>
> < snip >
>
>
>
> W0MU
>
> -- 30 --
>
>
>
> The words assisted & unassisted -- the dictionary definitions that is --
> and
>
> the contest classifications that they are used as the labels of are not
>
> necessarily the same.
>
>
>
> The meanings of the categories/classifications, when used, may differ from
>
> contest to contest.
>
>
>
> So more often than not, the discussions end up without resolution because
>
> the various participants aren't actually discussing the same thing.
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> I really wish a different word than "assisted" had been chosen when the
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> 73, ron w3wn
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