[CQ-Contest] WRTC 2018 - Area activity

Tue Sep 15 01:24:09 EDT 2015

Chris,

It is never too late.

You can simply say, sorry we were wrong, we made the wrong assumptions 
and change the items Braco has mentioned for the rest of the 
qualification period.  A good leader would be able to realize mistakes 
made and correct them for the good.

Simple.

Zoli HA1AG

On 9/14/2015 23:04, Braco OE1EMS wrote:
> Chris and others
>
> Ist pretty simple
>
> Just take a look into statistic and you will see
> that according activity and avg points EU #5  is most difficult category in EU
> 908 Ops generating all most same number of total points like 1450 Ops from EU #3
> I would say that much more active Ops from EU #5 are serious contester as from other EU groups!
> And EU #5 have  smallest nr of TL spots!
>
> This was a issue as well b4 just after you send out the rules
>
> Another issue which became very true
> are 12 contest in 2 years
> same points for LP and HP
> and score reduction for MS
>
> 1st
> in EU#5 we have about 6-8 very active contester, this means you need to be active in every contest
> not only 12 and not allow to others to generate points.
> 3 TL spots are just to less for this group....we use to have 5 of them b4
>
> 2nd
> Multi Op category are dead  for period of qualifications.....none of big contest teams are anymore QRV
> Only SO participation! Is this good? I don’t think so!
>
> 3rd
> LP vs. HP
> Somehow LP category became very popular....maybe to easy to gain 3-6 dB more without producing monster signal on the bands!
> I don’t know, but somehow some LP Ops did kick my ass in pileups during the WAE.....strange somehow and I don’t use small antennas !!!!
>
> 4th
> 900 points for WAG
> 1000 points for WAE
>
> VS
>
> 800 points for EUHFC
> 950 points for WPX
>
> Nice to try to generate more activity in German contest but let us be realistic....... maybe next time
>
>
> However those failures could be avoided b4...i know now is to late for any changes (or not) but maybe
> next WRTC organizer will consider more contesters ideas as anything else!
>
> and...... I don’t think that qualifications will find out who are the best Ops for WRTC
> Its much more of using better station as others ....or being big gun !
>
>
> 73s
> Braco
> E77DX
>
>
>
>
>
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> Von: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] Im Auftrag von 4O3A Ranko
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 13. September 2015 21:11
> An: Christian Janssen DL1MGB
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com; qualification at wrtc2018.de
> Betreff: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 2018 - Area activity
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I am commenting some parts of rules, with hope that organizer will think about it, even if don’t change anything.
>
> -Yes, this is clear that we have to accept rules, if want to compete.
> -Yes, it is clear that you are organizer and it gives you right to make your own rules.
>
> Somehow, I feel that we all are big contest family, and every well-intentioned comment is welcome? I do not remember that any of my earlier comments were senseless?
> So, your very useful statistic and number of teams per area are not correlating. I gave you solution what I would do, but it’s fine if nothing will be changed. Maybe next organizer will take some benefit out of it.
>
> Sorry if I disturb you, will pay a big beer when meet you next time J "Niksicko pivo" rulez!
>
> 73
> Ranko
>
>
> On 9/13/2015 7:22 PM, Christian Janssen DL1MGB wrote:
>> Hi Ranko,
>>
>> to be honest I really didn't understand your point (if there was one).
>>
>> If you are still complaining about the rules, it is too late. The
>> rules are set, the same rules for everybody.
>>
>> Those who want to qualify for WRTC2018, have to accept the rules.
>> Nobody is forced to participate if he doesn't want to or has problems
>> with the rules.
>>
>> If your point was a different one, please tell me.
>>
>> 73s Chris DL1MGB
>>
>>
>> Am 13.09.2015 um 18:56 schrieb 4O3A Ranko:
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> I know of course, but you did not understood my point.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Ranko
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/13/2015 6:31 PM, Christian Janssen DL1MGB wrote:
>>>> Hi Ranko,
>>>>
>>>> many thanks for your feedback.
>>>>
>>>> I am sorry to hear that you don't know the final numbers of team
>>>> leaders. But we already took care of this. Since November 2014 we
>>>> provide qualification rules on our website:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/wettbewerb-2
>>>>
>>>> In these rules you can read about the numbers of team leaders from
>>>> each qualification area.
>>>>
>>>> If you have more questions about the qualification rules, don't
>>>> hesitate to contact us.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck with your qualification!
>>>>
>>>> 73s Chris DL1MGB
>>>> President WRTC2018 Organizing Committee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 13.09.2015 um 10:31 schrieb Ranko Boca:
>>>>> Hi Christian
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw area activity statistic on your WEB page-excellent! *
>>>>> http://www.wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/wettbewerb-2/standings-2?task=a
>>>>> reaactivity
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (
>>>>>
>>>>> It's self explanatory.This statistics can be used as accurate tool
>>>>> for making fair decision of the number of participants from each
>>>>> region. For example - we even do not know final numbers of Team
>>>>> leader per area, and it will be defined by statistic when
>>>>> qualifying period is over. You just make an formula :-) Fair and
>>>>> exciting. Maybe even it can increase some activities?
>>>>>
>>>>> Current statistics indicate a disproportionate numbers of team
>>>>> leaders in some areas.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Ranko
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