[CQ-Contest] WRTC 2018 - Area activity

Tue Sep 15 07:17:33 EDT 2015

Exactly.

On 9/15/2015 7:24 AM, Zoli Pitman HA1AG via CQ-Contest wrote:
> Chris,
>
> It is never too late.
>
> You can simply say, sorry we were wrong, we made the wrong assumptions 
> and change the items Braco has mentioned for the rest of the 
> qualification period.  A good leader would be able to realize mistakes 
> made and correct them for the good.
>
> Simple.
>
> Zoli HA1AG
>
>
>
> On 9/14/2015 23:04, Braco OE1EMS wrote:
>> Chris and others
>>
>> Ist pretty simple
>>
>> Just take a look into statistic and you will see
>> that according activity and avg points EU #5  is most difficult 
>> category in EU
>> 908 Ops generating all most same number of total points like 1450 Ops 
>> from EU #3
>> I would say that much more active Ops from EU #5 are serious 
>> contester as from other EU groups!
>> And EU #5 have  smallest nr of TL spots!
>>
>> This was a issue as well b4 just after you send out the rules
>>
>> Another issue which became very true
>> are 12 contest in 2 years
>> same points for LP and HP
>> and score reduction for MS
>>
>> 1st
>> in EU#5 we have about 6-8 very active contester, this means you need 
>> to be active in every contest
>> not only 12 and not allow to others to generate points.
>> 3 TL spots are just to less for this group....we use to have 5 of 
>> them b4
>>
>> 2nd
>> Multi Op category are dead  for period of qualifications.....none of 
>> big contest teams are anymore QRV
>> Only SO participation! Is this good? I don’t think so!
>>
>> 3rd
>> LP vs. HP
>> Somehow LP category became very popular....maybe to easy to gain 3-6 
>> dB more without producing monster signal on the bands!
>> I don’t know, but somehow some LP Ops did kick my ass in pileups 
>> during the WAE.....strange somehow and I don’t use small antennas !!!!
>>
>> 4th
>> 900 points for WAG
>> 1000 points for WAE
>>
>> VS
>>
>> 800 points for EUHFC
>> 950 points for WPX
>>
>> Nice to try to generate more activity in German contest but let us be 
>> realistic....... maybe next time
>>
>>
>> However those failures could be avoided b4...i know now is to late 
>> for any changes (or not) but maybe
>> next WRTC organizer will consider more contesters ideas as anything 
>> else!
>>
>> and...... I don’t think that qualifications will find out who are the 
>> best Ops for WRTC
>> Its much more of using better station as others ....or being big gun !
>>
>>
>> 73s
>> Braco
>> E77DX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Von: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] Im Auftrag 
>> von 4O3A Ranko
>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 13. September 2015 21:11
>> An: Christian Janssen DL1MGB
>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com; qualification at wrtc2018.de
>> Betreff: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 2018 - Area activity
>>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> I am commenting some parts of rules, with hope that organizer will 
>> think about it, even if don’t change anything.
>>
>> -Yes, this is clear that we have to accept rules, if want to compete.
>> -Yes, it is clear that you are organizer and it gives you right to 
>> make your own rules.
>>
>> Somehow, I feel that we all are big contest family, and every 
>> well-intentioned comment is welcome? I do not remember that any of my 
>> earlier comments were senseless?
>> So, your very useful statistic and number of teams per area are not 
>> correlating. I gave you solution what I would do, but it’s fine if 
>> nothing will be changed. Maybe next organizer will take some benefit 
>> out of it.
>>
>> Sorry if I disturb you, will pay a big beer when meet you next time J 
>> "Niksicko pivo" rulez!
>>
>> 73
>> Ranko
>>
>>
>> On 9/13/2015 7:22 PM, Christian Janssen DL1MGB wrote:
>>> Hi Ranko,
>>>
>>> to be honest I really didn't understand your point (if there was one).
>>>
>>> If you are still complaining about the rules, it is too late. The
>>> rules are set, the same rules for everybody.
>>>
>>> Those who want to qualify for WRTC2018, have to accept the rules.
>>> Nobody is forced to participate if he doesn't want to or has problems
>>> with the rules.
>>>
>>> If your point was a different one, please tell me.
>>>
>>> 73s Chris DL1MGB
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 13.09.2015 um 18:56 schrieb 4O3A Ranko:
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>
>>>> I know of course, but you did not understood my point.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Ranko
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/13/2015 6:31 PM, Christian Janssen DL1MGB wrote:
>>>>> Hi Ranko,
>>>>>
>>>>> many thanks for your feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sorry to hear that you don't know the final numbers of team
>>>>> leaders. But we already took care of this. Since November 2014 we
>>>>> provide qualification rules on our website:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/wettbewerb-2
>>>>>
>>>>> In these rules you can read about the numbers of team leaders from
>>>>> each qualification area.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have more questions about the qualification rules, don't
>>>>> hesitate to contact us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck with your qualification!
>>>>>
>>>>> 73s Chris DL1MGB
>>>>> President WRTC2018 Organizing Committee
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 13.09.2015 um 10:31 schrieb Ranko Boca:
>>>>>> Hi Christian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw area activity statistic on your WEB page-excellent! *
>>>>>> http://www.wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/wettbewerb-2/standings-2?task=a
>>>>>> reaactivity
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's self explanatory.This statistics can be used as accurate tool
>>>>>> for making fair decision of the number of participants from each
>>>>>> region. For example - we even do not know final numbers of Team
>>>>>> leader per area, and it will be defined by statistic when
>>>>>> qualifying period is over. You just make an formula :-) Fair and
>>>>>> exciting. Maybe even it can increase some activities?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Current statistics indicate a disproportionate numbers of team
>>>>>> leaders in some areas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> Ranko
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