[CQ-Contest] cqcontest.net

Pete Smith N4ZR n4zr at contesting.com
Tue Apr 5 06:54:21 EDT 2016


Sorry, Ron, but I totally disagree.  If it doesn't *assist* someone to 
watch a scoreboard without band breakdown information (and it doesn't), 
then it is not *assistance*.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 4/5/2016 12:52 AM, Fco. Luis Delgadillo wrote:
>
>
> Enviado desde mi Huawei de Telcel
> Ron
> A couple of questions:
>
> Have you tried yourself the live scoreboard.
>
> The Best way to finding  out,  is perhaps, if you try the scoreboard 
> and then have an informed opinion - to discern facts from gut feelings?
>
> -------- Mensaje original --------
> Asunto: Re: [CQ-Contest] cqcontest.net
> De: Ron Notarius W3WN
> Para: 'Pete Smith N4ZR' ,'CQ Contest'
> CC:
>
>
>     But here's the thing Pete.
>
>
>
>     When you receive that information. how did you get it? Where did
>     it come
>     from? You said yourself. "You must decide to post your score" and what
>     other information is to be posted for use by other operators.
>
>
>
>     So ultimately, the answer is. it came from other operators who are
>     posting
>     that information. How is that not assisted?
>
>
>
>     Look, I don't have a problem with the scoreboard or similar
>     exchanges of
>     information. I'm not saying that the software that provides the
>     capability
>     should be disabled.
>
>
>
>     Just please don't tell me that it's not "assisted" and using it
>     doesn't put
>     you into an Assisted or equivalent operating category. It is. (Or
>     to put
>     it in the vernacular, don't spill a drink on my slacks and then
>     tell me it's
>     raining.)
>
>
>
>     Sometimes I operate Single Op/Assisted. Sometimes I don't. The
>     reasons why
>     vary depending on the event in question and how I am choosing to
>     approach
>     it. I'm comfortable with either category these days. I just don't
>     pretend
>     one is the other. And I don't ask that the line between them be
>     blurred.
>
>
>
>     Either you are assisted. or you aren't. It is that simple.
>
>
>
>     73, ron w3wn
>
>
>
>     _____
>
>     From: Pete Smith N4ZR [mailto:n4zr at contesting.com]
>     Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 4:01 PM
>     To: Ron Notarius W3WN; CQ Contest
>     Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] cqcontest.net
>
>
>
>     Ron, at least in the case of cqcontest.net and users of MM+, this
>     isn't
>     true. You must decideB to post your score, and you can decide (in MM+)
>     whether or not to include a band breakdown.B Without band information,
>     access to this resource is nothing but fun, and should not be
>     considered
>     assistance.B Perhaps the sponsors could voluntarily disable the band
>     breakdown display during contest weekends, and the whole issue
>     would go
>     away.
>
>
>
>     73, Pete N4ZR
>     Download the new N1MM Logger+ at
>     . Check
>     out the Reverse Beacon Network at
>     , now
>     spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
>     For spots, please use your favorite
>     "retail" DX cluster.
>
>     On 4/4/2016 8:16 AM, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
>
>     ...The scoreboard is directly based on spotting information.
>     Therefore,
>     information derived from it is (IMHO) assistance for the purposes
>     of most
>     contests that recognize this category.
>
>
>
>
>
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