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Hi Rudy:

Just about every competitive sport I can think of regulates or prohibits some very effective skills, techniques, and (the one item you didn't mention which is key here) technologies.  Many don't have the additional categories to permit these prohibited items - Radiosport does have the Unlimited category to accommodate some very effective technologies.

Examples abound.  Golf prohibits the use of GPS, rangefinders, and non-regulation balls and clubs.  Major league baseball prohibits aluminum bats and non-regulation balls.  American football prohibits the flying wedge.  Boxing prohibits hitting below the belt.

Radiosport is no different.  The only way to eliminate these periodic discussions about categories and rules would be to eliminate the categories and rules.  This is also a very effective way to eliminate cheating - if there are no rules, there is no cheating.

73,

Mark, KD4D

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rudy Bakalov via CQ-Contest" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
To: "KU7Y" <ku7y.cw at gmail.com>
Cc: "cq-contest" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:06:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] cqcontest.net

So why would a contest encourage participants not to develop new skills and techniques? Is there any other sport that says "It's OK if you don't want to get better, we will create a category for you. No worries, mate". This is what this debate about assisted vs unassisted vs so2r etc is all about.

Rudy N2WQ

Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate autocorrect.


> On Apr 6, 2016, at 1:50 PM, KU7Y <ku7y.cw at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rudy,
> 
> From my little experience using SO2R I found that it was a very big help
> just in knowing when to do things like change bands.  And many multipliers
> were found on the 2nd band that I would not have otherwise worked.  And I am
> not a skilled SO2R op.
> 
> From my point of view it's a night and day difference.  If you add in
> panadaptors it's even a greater difference.  If you add in the Assisted
> class it becomes a click and call matter to work multipliers.
> 
> There is nothing wrong with any of that.  But the advantage of the 2nd radio
> is, in my opinion, to great to lump them into the same class.
> 
> And that's without even considering those super operators who can run on 2
> bands in the dueling CQ mode. I have a great deal of respect for anyone who
> can do that!
> 
> OK, back in my hole,
> 
> Ron, KU7Y
> Arizona Outlaws Contest Club
> Northern California Contest Club
> Silver Springs, NV
> ku7y at qsl.net
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rudy Bakalov [mailto:r_bakalov at yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 7:15 AM
>> To: KU7Y
>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] cqcontest.net
>> 
>> Why would that be?
>> 
>> Rudy N2WQ
>> 
>> Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or
> inappropriate
>> autocorrect.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 9:54 PM, KU7Y <ku7y.cw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You're not the only one who feels that way Tony,
>>> 
>>> I've said for a long time that SO1R and SO2R should be separate classes.
>>> 
>>> OK, back in my hole,
>>> 
>>> Ron, KU7Y
>>> Arizona Outlaws Contest Club
>>> Northern California Contest Club
>>> Silver Springs, NV
>>> ku7y at qsl.net
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf
> Of
>>>> N2TK, Tony
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 3:20 PM
>>>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] cqcontest.net
>>>> 
>>>> For my own selfish reasons I would like to see SO1R and SO2R Unassisted
>>>> separate.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> N2TK, Tony
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf
> Of
>>> Ed
>>>> Sawyer
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 1:19 PM
>>>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] cqcontest.net
>>>> 
>>>> Ditto the KD4D post.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Why don't we let the unassisted operators decide whether the concern of
>>>> assisted ops invading our category is worth eliminating it over the
>>> concern?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> No reason to merge the 2 categories and then do an overlay.  Just leave
> it
>>>> the way it is and clarify reasonable questions like Braco's question.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> By the way, do to great efforts of the organizations and contest
> managers,
>>>> doesn't the ARRL and CQ contests represent something like 75%+ of all
> the
>>>> contest Qs made in a year?  Why exactly should this majority follow the
>>>> "rest of the world" minority?  Just sayin.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ed  N1UR
>>>> 
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