[CQ-Contest] Who copies things any more?

Sun Apr 10 15:36:19 EDT 2016

Hi Hans,

he sent 5 and Oliver copied 5, but W9IL sent in his log with zone 4 in the cabrillo header.
In 10 years from now the contest will be fully automagically revalidated by computers analyzing and parsing the SDR recordings.
I wonder when we'll see an SSB skimmer. It's about time. I am sure the technology exists. 
73
Frank DL2CC

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] Im Auftrag von Radio K0HB
Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. April 2016 19:49
An: Oliver Dröse <droese at necg.de>; cq-contest at contesting.com; k5zd at charter.net
Betreff: Re: [CQ-Contest] Who copies things any more?

If ---

1) W9IL sent '4',
2) and DH8BQA copied '4',
3) and both logs show it thus,
4) then "the computer" should should very happy, maybe even ecstatic, and record this as a valid exchange.

What am I missing here?

On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 17:13 Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd at charter.net> wrote:

> There are much better ways to report these issues than via the contest 
> reflector.  A look at the public log reveals the problem.
>
> http://www.cqww.com/publiclogs/2015cw/w9il.log
>
> W9IL submitted a log showing all sent exchanges as zone 4.
>
> Computers are very happy doing simple checking.  They are not so smart 
> to know when the input data is incorrect.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On 
> > Behalf Of Oliver Dröse
> > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 9:47 PM
> > To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Who copies things any more?
> >
> > Same question/request goes to the log checkers! Or how else would 
> > such a thing happen? ;-)
> >
> > *************** Incorrect Exchange Information ***************
> > 21045 CW 2015-11-29 1622 DH8BQA          14 W9IL             5 correct
> > 4
> >
> > This is the corresponding audio recording:
> >
> http://www.dh8bqa.de/cqwwcw2015audio/log/W9IL_de_DH8BQA_CQWWCW_CW_2015
> 112
> > 9_162227Z_21MHz.mp3
> >
> >
> > Definitely copied correctly (my contest software defaulted to 4, had 
> > to change it manually to 5) but the log checking software had it 
> > wrong! Not that it would have made a big difference in the final 
> > ranking but still there's some potential ... ;-)
> >
> > 73, Olli - DH8BQA
> >
> > Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de
> >
> >
> > Am 09.04.2016 um 15:49 schrieb Barry:
> > > Yup. I haven't lived in zone 5/PA for 7 years, and still see quite 
> > > a few miscopied zone/state errors in my LCRs.  I am listed as a 
> > > zone/state exception in the SCP file.  How hard is it to update it 
> > > at least once a decade?  :-)
> > >
> > > Barry W2UP
> > >
> > > On 4/9/2016 06:47, Jim Stahl via CQ-Contest wrote:
> > >> A major congratulations of the CQWW crew for getting out the 2015 
> > >> CQWW CW (and SSB) results out in such a timely manner!
> > >>
> > >> My log checking report was a very interesting reflection of the 
> > >> role of computers in today’s contesting world. I operated QRP 
> > >> from our new winter QTH in Florida (actually at a waterfront park, not our condo).
> > >> But to the computer world, I’m in zone 4, presumably back in Ohio.
> > >> Out of my 536 valid QSOs, 196 “copied” me in zone 4! An 
> > >> additional six guys who miscopied my call also put me there.
> > >>
> > >> I expected a lot of such errors, as I could tell from the rhythm 
> > >> of the QSO that a lot of people had not taken the extra second to 
> > >> type a “5”. But the number of miscopies, or more precisely 
> > >> non-copies, greatly exceeded expectations.
> > >>
> > >> I’ll be back in zone 4 in another week, so don’t move me 
> > >> permanently to zone 5. Just copy what I send !
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 73  -  Jim    K8MR
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